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1966 P Cent Die Gouge?

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Not sure what this is on the jacket but it is raised. Any ideas?


1966-P-Cent-Die-Gouge?
1966-P-Cent-Die-Gouge?
1966-P-Cent-Die-Gouge?
1966-P-Cent-Die-Gouge?
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Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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 Posted 05/06/2022  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@coin, that could be a die gouge. Can you pls confirm that this region is raised? Thx.
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I was having a hard time finding it on the full coin shot but think you rotated it 90 degrees. Does not take much to confuse me.

Maybe a retained struck through?
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Yes Makescents, I rotated the closeups. The feature runs vertically from lapel to jacket. It's raised and almost has a familiar shape. Odd place for a gouge to I'd say.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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Die gouge seems logical.
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Could be as simple as misplaced metal too. Looks like there is a large chunk gone out of the cheek bone area, PSD.
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3rd and 4th pic I see horizontal lines like from a piece of braided copper wire? Weight?
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Yep
John 1 maybe correct in braided wire.
Looks like struck thru wire to me.
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Looks like struck thru wire to me.

but, if it were a struck through, it would be incuse. The OP states that it is raised above the device.
I'm going for a die gouge on the presumption that it is raised.
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It weighs 3.10 g and as noted there is some damage to the cheek but that seems unrelated. Do you guys think this is a "retained" piece of wire or that the die was imprinted with the wire and transferred that impression to the coin?
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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I do not think it is a retained wire,that would increase the weight. The die could have been damaged maybe and then transferred the die damage to the coin. Or just some kind of die gouge.
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Yep
Wire not retained but maybe damaged die leaving
a ? Strike thru ?dent ?gouge?.
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If were talking about the lapel, that looks like a thin die chip or in incuse mark on the lapel that pushed the metal a bit.
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Ok, thanks gang. I'll write "Braided Wire Die Gouge?" on the 2x2.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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