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Why Did They Remove The "Beading" From The Rim?

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I recently got my first high grade Barber dime and noticed that there is a nice ornate beading around the inner rim. All of my previous Barbers are at best in G-4 condition and this beading has long worn off so I never realized that it existed. I see that the Seated dime as well as the bust dime had this beading also. So why did the mint remove this wonderful ornate bordering starting with the Mercury dime? (I didn't know if if was ok to link to pictures from the gallery on ccf). Thanks.
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rkp,

Actually, "beading" describes our very early coinage and this design was engraved right into the coin die. With the advent of collars on coin presses, dentils replaced these "beads" and continued through Barber coinage. The dentils were created by the collars. I think the wire-rim St Gaudens double eagle changed everyone's feelings on dentils.
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Are they dentils or denticles...?
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 Posted 02/07/2009  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rkp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ahhhh, so that's what they're called. Thank you for the history lesson SeatedNut.
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 Posted 02/07/2009  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Are they dentils or denticles...?


I believe they are individually dentils and collectively denticles. The terms are interchangeable.
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The dentils were created by the collars.

The dentils are not created by the collar, they are part of the die.
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Found this on about.com:

Question: Why do Some Coins Have Denticles?

Answer: Denticles are the little tooth-like design elements that you see around the perimeter of many 18th and 19th century U.S. coins. The reason for denticles was to make the coins stack more easily, back in the days before the coin minting machines had close collars applied while the planchet was being struck. (The close collar helps build a solid rim around the faces.) Because people got used to seeing this element on the coins, denticles remained in abbreviated form long after the need for them had been eliminated.

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And here I always thought those were beads to commemorate our early trading with the Indians. They wouldn' accept our money unless it looked like beads.
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Ugh! Beads heap big better than denticled wampum.
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 Posted 02/11/2009  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shovel78 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I understand no beads on ASE is fake.
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