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United States
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Nobody bid on this 1883 Indian cent, so I gladly put a bid down and purchased this for $55.05. It looked like a business strike in the seller's photos. Receiving it in hand today, I realize that the luster is very minimal on the obverse, but still looks original. The reverse has little to no luster at all. In my eyes, this is either a dipped out/problem business strike, or a proof strike. Things to note: the color is even on the obverse, Longacre doubling is evident, and there is a die crack touching the F in OF that continues through AM in AMERICA. They made over 6,000 proofs this year. Reasons for this to be a business strike: 1. Not proof quality (mirror fields, square rims, sharp strike, etc.) Reasons for this to be a proof strike: 1. The original listing was under the "proof set" category (that is why nobody bid on it, it didn't come up on Indian Head cent searches) 2. I believe "proof" was written in the upper right-hand corner of the 2x2 before it was crossed out 3. The lack of blazing luster found on unc strikes looks original, the coin doesn't appear to have been messed with ***If you are really feeling it, throw out a grade. I had a difficult time taking photos of this coin, so the pictures aren't crystal. Try your best! The pictures don't do the coin justice, it looks fantastic in hand. Thanks to all in advance!       Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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United States
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I don't think it is a proof.
I think it would be a candidate for 64+ R&B.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1018 Posts |
This is tough without seeing in hand. I agree with the first comment that from these images it looks like a circulation strike.
I'll say a full MS65RB.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Agree not a clear call, but I'll say MS-64RB.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
5663 Posts |
Great strike, but the letters and date look too rounded to be a proof. I'd say MS-65RB.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5825 Posts |
The reverse might hold it to BN rather than RB.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Sharp strike MS-65+RB. Not a proof .
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Thanks all for the comments. What makes you think this is a business strike, just rounded letters and date numerals?
I wish I was in the position to send this in to PCGS, it would make a fun learning experience. I don't want to wait for months to see this coin again, I'd rather just sell it as is. As I've heard before on this forum, a fast nickel is better than a slow dime.
Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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United States
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It just doesn't have the zip/flash/oomph that I usually see in proofs from that era.
If it were mine, and I was that curious about it, I'd box it up and send it off to ANACS for a grading opinion. That's how we learn things. Not sure what their current turnaround time or costs are but you can always call and ask and snag a submission form.
You can always get an opinion of the coin at a local show IF any of the grading services reps are present and are accepting submissions / offering opinions.
Good luck whatever you do!
Edited by westernsky
05/12/2022 9:34 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Not a proof, - lack of a square edge.
However, I can understand why it otherwise appears as a proof, without an obvious radial mint luster.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3848 Posts |
I will be sending in this coin one way or another. Currently tracking down a dealer that will send it in for me, because membership fees are a killer. Best case scenario, a dealer will send it in to PCGS for me and will have a result in a few months. Worst case, I send it in to ANACS to just get it in a holder. Will post results here when I get them. Final guesses welcome!  Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The rim doesn't look like a proof. But it's great looking MS.
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Valued Member
United States
455 Posts |
It looks like a business strike to me. Lovely coin, by the way.
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Posted 05/12/2022 08:04 am
