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1998-S SMS Matte Finish, Silver Kennedy Half

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Hello all. I'm having some brain fog concerning the differences in grading (PCGS) on the above coin. Specifically, I notice that some are graded with a MS prefix and some are graded with a SP prefix. At the risk of sounding foolish...what's the difference?
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@jerry, first welcome to CCF. Second, the SP prefix means "specimen". Here is a link to a prior thread with more information:

http://goccf.com/t/175381
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Hello. As you probably know, MS stands for Mint State, which is a prefix given to circulation or business strike coins (same thing) that grade 60 or above on the Sheldon grading scale. Proof is for proof strike coins that are made specially for collectors, and can be applied to any proof coin from grade PO-01 to PF/PR-70. Modern proofs often have a strong contrast between the devices and the fields and are easily distinguishable from circulation strike coins. Some proof coins that are circulated (impaired proofs) and have lost that appearance can still be identified as proofs from die characteristics and other diagnostics -- I personally don't know much about those, though.
'SP' stands for 'Specimen' or 'Special (strike)' depending on who you ask, although I usually see it called a specimen strike. These coins are specially made, so they aren't circulation strikes and cannot qualify for MS as long as they are correctly labeled. They often have at least some characteristics of proofs, but don't meet all of the qualifications for some reason or another. In 1964-1967, the U.S. Mint didn't strike proofs but instead struck coins with a slightly different finish and labeled then as 'Special Mint Sets.' they are commonly labeled as SMS coins. A 1794 dollar in exceptional condition was labeled as a specimen strike. I'm not sure exactly why, but I think it's mostly because of its prooflike appearance and historical significance. Some 1921 and 1921-S Morgan dollars were made specially for a coin collector and numismatic writer named Farrand Zerbe. Based on the photos on PCGS CoinFacts, they seem to bear a resemblance to DMPL Morgan dollars. Many pattern coins with unusual finishes or reliefs, or struck on something that isn't metal, are called specimen strikes, such as Judd-2081, a 1942 Wheat cent pattern made in high relief on a white metal planchet as an experiment during World War II.
The 1998-S half dollar you are referring to could be purchased alongside an uncirculated Robert F. Kennedy half dollar in the 1998 Kennedy Collector's Set for $59.95. It had an unusual Matte finish similar to that on proof Lincoln cents made from 1909-1916, proof Buffalo nickels made from 1913-1916, and certain proof pre-1933 gold coins. I'm not aware of any 1998-S Circulation strike Kennedy halves, however there were proof 1998-S Kennedy half dollars made, in much greater quantities than the Matte finish halves. I hope this information helped. I can't guarantee that it is all correct, but I think most of it is right. Then again, I literally haven't even started high school. Anyways, to the Coin Community Forum!
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thank you for the quick replies and warm welcome. Hopefully, I can become a contributing member some day, but for now you all with simply be stuck with answering my rookie questions...lol. As for this topic, I believe the answer I was looking for is contained in the thread that Spence supplied. Evidently, the grading companies (PCGS in this case) placed a MS prefix on these coins when they first started grading them, and then at some point switched to SP. The only other explanation would be that there was a Special Mint Set struck in Matte and also a regular strike Special Mint Set, but I'm fairly certain the latter does not exist...
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Evidently, the grading companies ( PCGS in this case) placed a MS prefix on these coins when they first started grading them, and then at some point switched to SP.

This isn't correct. In 1998, there were 5 different Kennedy half strikes. The regular business strike (P and D) would be graded on the MS scale. The proof S strike and a silver proof S strike would be graded using PF. Finally, there was a special silver matte finish S strike (only 62,000) that would be graded as SP.
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The Kennedy brothers were issued together in the set. John in the matte finish 1/2, and Robert in the Dollar. Due to this set the Robert Kennedy uncirculated dollar had more produced over the proof version.

1998-S-SMS-Matte-Finish,-Silver-Kennedy-Half

1998-S-SMS-Matte-Finish,-Silver-Kennedy-Half
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