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Please Help Identify I Can Tell You Its A Large Cent C1792 Male Bust Looking Left

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 Posted 06/14/2022  8:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Spencerj72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
At the risk of getting a bad name I ask for help with this coin. I can make out the date 1792 it has beaded edge with Liberty Parent of Science and Industry the Rim is inscribed with the words to be esteemed be useful the bust is the image of a man with a tattoo that reads
Birch rather than Mom. The Reverse is a wreath with long strands of Berries sprouting in and about there isn't the presence of a denominator but there appears to be a numerator above four letters GWPT? Any help is more than appreciated

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 Posted 06/14/2022  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a draped bust cent but the bust looks too crude and not quite right. Maybe a highly corroded copy of a draped bust cent?
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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The 1792 pattern cents had the flowing hair bust facing right, not the draped bust so it is not likely to be one of the 1792 large cent patterns.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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A very crude counterfeit
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 Posted 06/14/2022  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spencerj72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not all we're right facing coins. Example Judd 3 Judd 4 and Judd 5 along with others

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 Posted 06/14/2022  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spencerj72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And again I say this is the image of a man not a woman and what you think you see as being a chest is actually a gentleman's coat from that period
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With all due respect, you can't be serious? Clearly a draped bust yet again
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OP's proposals for the type of this coin are just simply wrong..
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Put me in the draped bust group as the only coin that comes close to matching the obverse and reverse is a draped bust large cent.
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 Posted 06/15/2022  12:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spencerj72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tyty and Frog, what would a party be without the two of you. I see you brought the same old answers you brought to the last party. So with all due respect, Please I beg you to explain to me and everyone else how you come to this conclusion what was it the 1792 at the bottom or maybe the crazy words and letters around the rim, oh the rim it must have been the beading that convinced you. How do you say bust in the presence of all these things take one look at the head then go through the known examples of bust coins and let me know which one it is, oh and don't forget to match the date beading and everything else including the lettered edge " to be esteemed be useful". As it stands neither of you have articulated anything resembling a bust coin. Here's a better image
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 Posted 06/15/2022  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have just finished going through many of your threads and you seem to have the curiosity but you should learn to take the advice of members here. You have posted many coins that you believe to be extremely rare and have said that you have sent some of them in to TPG but I have yet to see any results posted. Have you sent any in? Did they come back as expected? Even the experts here can be wrong some times as we are just going off pictures to judge but with many of these posts the answer has been obvious to most.

Anyways I'd love to see what TPG had to say about the coins you said you submitted.
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Put me in the draped bust group as the only coin that comes close to matching the obverse and reverse is a draped bust large cent.

Agreed. Badly corroded, but the outline of the draped bust obverse and reverse is fairly clear. Maybe it's just the quality of the photos, but I see no hint of a date or any inscriptions as described. Please submit to a TPG and report back the results.
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I call this "numismatic psychosis." I'm sorry, but you're never going to get anywhere in this hobby by looking up the most expensive coin you can find and then trying to convince other people that your severely corroded coin is that one, when it clearly isn't. And I'm not even sure which coin you're dreaming about with all this left facing male with a Birch tattoo and a coat and 1792 and etc. Where in god's name do you see all that? What specific coin do you think this is anyway? I apologize again but I think you're in need of some tough love. Return to earth.
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This is clearly a draped bust. I don't see a beaded edge or any of the lettering or 1792 date. Just a corroded draped bust cent.
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