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Halfpenny 1775 With Stamp

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Hi All,

By luck I found this interesting piece in a lot british coins. It would be probably very hard to know the letters. But I though maybe someone here recognize it. Otherwise just for showing. Most of the stamp coins or engraved pieces I have are after 1820's.

Could be that it was used 100 years later.


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 Posted 06/17/2022  10:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This early counterstamp begs attribution .... a mystery piece seeking solution.

My guess is that LAURENCE is the surname, and LEWES is the town. By way of mention, There was a St. Laurence church in Lewes. Sussex County, England. That said. I suspect that this is a merchant stamp, from Lewes, circa 1840's, give or take twenty years.

Perhaps there are similar pieces out there? Early directories/newspapers/patent records may offer a clue. Another angle is to seek out pics of early metallic products from Lewes.

Happy hunting!
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Fun find. Been through Lewes many times, very picturesque with a wonderful historic castle.
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pretty neat - a new mystery to solve..
Has anyone contacted Scotland Yard or Sherlock Holmes yet?
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Interesting find!
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Nice work @exo. My first thought was LAURENCE DEWES, but I'm sure you must be right.
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Many thanks and appreciation for all you replies.
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Thanks, Spence .... I do hope Vince, our OP, will pursue this one.

A great deal of personal satisfaction can be had, solving these counterstamp mysteries. A side benefit is learning from the pursuit, regardless of win or lose. One of my finest c/s attributions took me over ten years to nail. Long though it lasted, I did much relish that journey! Learning to ask the right questions and learning about resources out there, the process of discovery, can be almost as entertaining as making the ultimate discovery, methinks.

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A great deal of personal satisfaction can be had, solving these counterstamp mysteries

I'd extend this to "numismatic" mysteries in general. I thoroughly enjoy tracking down little tidbits of information about a coin or medal. As you mentioned, some searches can last years, but it feels great when the answer is found!


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Is there anyone particulary that did research in stamps like these from the early 19th or late 18th century? Then I can perhaps contact him/her. I know there have been many on frensch coins for marketing purposes but these are all later dated. Personally I have most with only one letter, like the American cent I posted previously. These items always fascinate me somehow.
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Is there anyone particulary that did research in stamps like these from the early 19th or late 18th century?


Greg Brunk did so, Here's his book .... https://www.ebay.com/itm/225018631205

Having collected coins for almost seven decades now, I've long regarded the counterstamps as "the final frontier of numismatics." There's ever so much to be learned and written about them.
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Thank you! I see he seems not to be alive anymore. Also he did had some other books. All quite hard to find. I will keep this in mind for buying in the future perhaps. What is your opinion regarding the final frontier of numismatics in relation to these countermarked pieces?
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What is your opinion regarding the final frontier of numismatics in relation to these countermarked pieces?


By saying this, I simply suggest that this area of numismatics, at large, offers the greatest avenue for exploration and discovery. Any serious numismatist, looking to break new ground in research, would do well to consider counterstamps.

Greg Brunk was a personal friend, a great guy. We'd spoken often by phone but never met in person. Greg wrote about a variety of coin topics. Our friendship was largely based upon a mutual interest in counterstamps and shared backgrounds in criminal justice. Greg's books have become collectors' items, in and of themselves.
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