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Unique Varity Or Maybe A Imitation Half Penny? Who Knows?

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 Posted 06/19/2022  06:46 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add vince1977 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi All,

I have to be honest. Just yesterday I was thinking about selling or exchange this 1/2 half penny for another coin I collect. However taking a closer look at it. I found something interesting. Both the branch that the seated person holds is different and smaller as the straps right to the hairlines. At least thats how they appear to me.

Comparing I did not find a same in sold archives with the smaller branch as the straps that are curled different. However I found a stack bowers contemporary forgery but the head does not look a official one like I have. Who can tell me more about this one?
Weight: 9,03 grams
Diameter : 28mm

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 Posted 06/19/2022  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dunkleosteus430 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe Die Deterioration could be to blame. I hardly know anything about colonials, though.
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 Posted 06/19/2022  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
139 grains is light for a GII 1/2d (1753 should be ~152gn.)
Bust is wrong (truncated short), date is crude and too thick, branch is wrong
Branch hand should point just right of the right side of the I, instead it points just right of the center of the T

Non regal in my opinion

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 Posted 06/20/2022  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vince1977 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks! Still the condition is overall way to good for a unofficial piece is it not? Mostly the unofficial ones were especially worn to be un-noticed . The portret is still quite good.
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 Posted 06/20/2022  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, I think this coin is likely genuine. The copper coins of this period were struck to a much lower standard than the silver and gold ones. These coins did not have collars and had a mostly ovoid shape. I have in the past thought they were Roman 'as' and radiates before looking at them and seeing a bewigged ruler with English lettering rather than Latin.

That is about all I can say, my knowledge and ownership of any English low copper/bronze before 1797 is very limited and its only the post 1860 Bronze I have much creedence over.

Ironically I also have a 1753 Halfpenny and mine is much darker and worn than this one.
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 Posted 06/23/2022  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hogarth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a standard legitimate first bust halfpenny of George II.
To begin with, your halfpenny is not 1753 but 1733, as clearly shown in the exergue. If it were 1753 the obverse would feature the second, older, bust which came into use during 1740. It being light in weight is also not unusual as the weight of blanks used to strike the coins varied considerably at this time. All other details you highlight, laurel branch, Britannia, hair ties, can also differ slightly from one die to another and also are perfectly normal.
It wouldn't hurt to familiarise yourself with coins of the series:

https://www.colincooke.com/collecti...n_part3.html

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_..._sacat=11116

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06/23/2022 7:05 pm
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 Posted 06/24/2022  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vince1977 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. Interesting website
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