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1949 D Lincoln Cent Thoughts

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Checking through some of my older Wheaties and found this one. Reverse has a de-lamination crack from rim to rim. I also noticed what appears to be doubling in "UNUM" and serif separation in R of TRUST. Cannot tell if it is MD or DDO. Cannot find any listings that match in Wex, CC or VV. Your thoughts.

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@ny, someone can correct me if I am wrong, but I think that the doubling associated with a doubled die generally affects the dots between the words of EPU most visibly. On your coin, the letters seem to stretch to the rim—I believe that is most likely DDD.
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DDD
Nice reverse lamination.
Don't see serif in "R".
Maybe more focused pic would help.
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Nice reverse lamination. it looks like MD on the UNUM to me. Usually with doubling you will see the dots between EPU to be doubled (we call that the 'Snowman' effect)
as for the serif separation R in trust - can't see it with image provided.
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DDD. Keep searchingly!
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Interesting coin, yes. I agree with the Die Deterioration Doubling assessment--the last 9 in 1949 seems to show this as well.
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The place to look at first are the dots on the EPU on the reverse. If they are not rounded, but are egg shaped, then look for more spread on this area. Machine Doubling shows on the outside/inside edges of devices. Spread is seen on the centers of the devices:
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Look for the spread on the devices on the centers of the devices.
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Note the enlarging of these devices on the DDR?
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The larger the spread, the easier the DDR is noticed.
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Always start looking at the dots. A doubled die comes from a doubled die. Machine Doubling can happen to a doubled die, but Machine Doubling never creates a doubled die. If the outside/inside edges of devices are showing a flat area, and the other side of the devices are showing contour, it is always Machine Doubling. 90 degrees angles are what Machine Doubling creates.

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