1967 Quarter Double-Die Or Shelving?

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Philmow New Member United States 19 Posts	Posted 07/02/2022 3:43 pm It looks to me that I may have finally found a double-die coin, but I keep getting tricked by common shelving. Please have a look and let me know what you think. I see it only on the obverse. Thanks! Report this Post to the Staff

JimmyD Bedrock of the Community Canada 21586 Posts	Posted 07/02/2022 3:48 pm It looks like Die Deterioration Doubling caused by a worn die along with possibly MD. It is not a DD. Edited by JimmyD 07/02/2022 4:09 pm Report this Post to the Staff
nfine Pillar of the Community United States 3468 Posts	Posted 07/02/2022 4:16 pm with JimmyD Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94892 Posts	Posted 07/02/2022 4:41 pm with above. Take a good look at the R in Quarter - notice how the back uptight of the R is skinnier than the rest - and it is shelf like - that is MD. There is also radial flow lines on the fields that tell me it is also DDD. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
ijn1944 Bedrock of the Community United States 19120 Posts	Posted 07/02/2022 4:56 pm Yes, a stew of Machine Doubling, seasoned with Die Deterioration. Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 07/02/2022 5:31 pm Looks mostly like MD to me. to the CCF! Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 07/02/2022 5:37 pm The die state is a later die state example. Judging by the extreme flow lines this one was on it's third polishing because the raised devices are starting to loose their shape. What you are looking at on the devices is Machine Doubling. So this is an extreme die wear example. This is not DDD as the die creation of the DDD is the single squeeze dies. So it is not DDD. This is the old fashioned multi hub die process. The single squeeze dies show the die wear on the fields first. On these dies the outside edge towards the rim, are affected first. So this is just die wear, not DDD. Both are wear, but the die wear patterns are different. Also the profile heights are different. The single squeeze dies have the lower profile. The old fashioned multi hub dies have the higher profile. (Thus I feel why the fields are affected first on the single squeeze dies with the DDD) Die wear on a normal die with Machine Doubling is you are seeing on your coin. If this were a DDR, then the devices would be enlarged: Note on the top image, this is a normal die example. On the lower example it is a DDR. That is how much of a difference a strong DDR will enlarge the devices. Not the spread? That is what to look for on a doubled die. Look at the centers of the devices, not on the outside edges of the devices. The outside edges is where you will find Machine Doubling and die wear. So when looking at the devices, look at the centers of the devices. No spread there? Move on to the next coin. To continue looking will find you what you found on your coin. Not a doubled die. CoopHome: Doubled dies are harder to find. What am I missing during my searches? Report this Post to the Staff
Philmow New Member United States 19 Posts	Posted 07/02/2022 7:07 pm Wow! OK, that was a huge amount of great information. Sorry not to have the DDR, but gained some knowledge today. Thanks so much! Edited by Philmow 07/02/2022 7:08 pm Report this Post to the Staff
jacrispies Pillar of the Community United States 3848 Posts	Posted 07/02/2022 8:10 pm Quote: but gained some knowledge today That's the key! Educate yourself! Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955 Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. Report this Post to the Staff
merclover Bedrock of the Community United States 10635 Posts	Posted 07/02/2022 11:52 pm Classic Machine Doubling, a fine example. to the CCF! Report this Post to the Staff
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