1939-P Wheat Cent - Strange Date, Possible Error?

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yung_bath_salts Valued Member United States 77 Posts	Posted 07/10/2022 4:02 pm Hello Coin Community, Pictured below is a 1939-P Wheat cent with a strange bend on the 1. Curious if this is a legitimate error or some type of strange post-mint damage. Thank you! Report this Post to the Staff

silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 07/10/2022 4:07 pm First time I see this. Some will say it is material move from an PMD. I will like to see hole coin photos R and O to see if it is an legitimate coin or not. For this year was some counterfeit saw around. Report this Post to the Staff
yung_bath_salts Valued Member United States 77 Posts	Posted 07/10/2022 4:16 pm OBV & REV Photos as requested Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 07/10/2022 4:23 pm It is a legitim mint coin with no doubt (by the design), an XRF will can confirms, but all fake Wheat cent could be detect by the reverse. So IMO it is an error of the punch of the date digits. I have no clue how to attribute, but for me it is clear is no way to be an move material on this pseudo "1". Edited by silviosi 07/10/2022 4:26 pm Report this Post to the Staff
ijn1944 Bedrock of the Community United States 19167 Posts	Posted 07/10/2022 4:24 pm Post-strike damage involving the date. A hit from long ago moved the metal--copper is a relatively soft material. Report this Post to the Staff
JTCC Pillar of the Community United States 797 Posts	Posted 07/10/2022 5:25 pm This coin has sustained a hit in circulation that displaced the metal of the digit 1. Report this Post to the Staff
mrwhatisit Pillar of the Community United States 2955 Posts	Posted 07/10/2022 5:25 pm I am not sure why counterfeiters would want to fake a very common wheatback Counterfeit means the whole coin is fake and not done by our mints, an alteration is a genuine coin that has been tampered with somehow. That said, this 1939 is neither, the one in date got a strange bit of post mint damage. Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 07/10/2022 5:34 pm PMD John1 Report this Post to the Staff
merclover Bedrock of the Community United States 10635 Posts	Posted 07/10/2022 5:53 pm Post mint damage to the date. Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 07/10/2022 6:04 pm Agree, just an odd circulation hit. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 96465 Posts	Posted 07/10/2022 6:14 pm I agree, the 1 took a hit and the metal was pushed over a bit, like what a bulldozer does to dirt. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 07/10/2022 6:49 pm Well, well. I have to answer. I do not to contradict all the forum, and majority of you with such enormous knowledge, but in this case I will point why I state what I state. My state is base on the first the distance of the 1 to the 9.DO not fit. Secnod I took the picture (forgot to ask the permission) and on transparency overlaps to a normal coin. The results it is that this 1 no fit exact with the curve of the first 9. Third: the end of the 1 bottom fit with the end of the first 9. Forth: I do not see any kind of marks of the moved or dispatch material. YOUR OPINION PLEASE. RW The last it is to respond to MRWAHTITIS.: I saw before sets of 1930 to 1969 fake coins put in the market. Sure the 1939 it is not an valuable coin but someone some where do those fake sets. Was discovered and then stop. I never have a back from authority with the result or the origin. I took retirement at last 1st July from this consulting, so from now I will stand only with what I know. Sorry if I batter you or disturb. All my best, silvio Edited by silviosi 07/10/2022 6:52 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 07/10/2022 6:56 pm The field scrapes that perhaps accompanied the long-ago hit (or hits) that curiously reshaped this digit have long since disappeared with wear. Believe me, there is no other explanation for this deformity. Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 07/10/2022 7:00 pm Or maybe when the date was punch was a wrong NO date and then the Die worker re-polish and release without say made a mistake. Happened before this date and after. Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34418 Posts	Posted 07/10/2022 7:36 pm It sure looks like damage to me. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Cujohn Pillar of the Community United States 7174 Posts	Posted 07/10/2022 8:27 pm Silviosi, If this was a punched wrong die, how could they not produce thousands of them before they discovered the error. This is the first one found in 80 years? Not too possible. I think a lot of PMD is explained by Hocum's razor. Report this Post to the Staff
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