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1808 Capped Bust Half Dollar Grade

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Hello all,

I just won an 1808 Capped Bust half dollar at auction, and I wanted to get some feedback on what the coin grading experts (and novices like myself) think the grade might be. Here is the listing with some photos that the seller provided: (https://hibid.com/lot/126211382/180...nbow-toning)
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 Posted 07/14/2022  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pics are kind of dark, but it looks like a nice coin. Perhaps you can post some brighter pics when it arrives.



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This is the O-108 variety with a rarity of 3 (Scarce, 201-500 known). This coin has terminal black toning, and an old cleaning. Just some luster remains around the devices. This piece has a very good strike, seen by the mostly complete wings and head of the eagle, and the detail in Miss Liberty's cap. There is some weakness on the feather tips and Miss Liberty's cheek. This should be an AU, but the cleaning hurts it. I would give this coin a grade of XF-45.
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Most likely an original coin though any color is hard to see by the way the coin was photographed. Add some photos when you have it in hand.
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 Posted 07/14/2022  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ploopy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU50, hoping for some better pics soon when it's in hand.
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This coin is very dark and unfortunately would not likely straight grade IMO. Reasonably attractive, but it looks like an old cleaning would detail it. Potentially artificially retoned.
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i have it at AU53 and not sure if she grades straight. photos are deceiving they can make the coin looks better or worse that it is. this one will need a better look in hand
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Thanks for the responses! I bought the coin hoping that it would grade out at about an AU-50/AU-53. I'll be interested to see how the coin looks in hand, and I'll let everyone know if there are any hairlines that I can detect whenever I get it in the mail. I'll try to snap some better photos, but my camera's not the best, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to get some decent pictures.
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 Posted 07/15/2022  07:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echidna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Toning doesn't look original to me.
EF details.
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I just received the coin in the mail today. I'll preface the pictures by saying two things: 1. My phone's camera is far from superb, so I'm sorry that the pictures provided aren't the best. 2. I've examined this coin closely, and I'm happy to report that I do not see any rub marks or hairline scratches indicative of a cleaning. With that said, the coin definitely exhibits plenty of toning while retaining some of its original mint state luster. With that said, I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on the grade of the coin now.


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Can you post some pics of the coin outside the coin flip. The light will reflect different off the coin than it will through the plastic. From these the surfaces do not look original, a bit too reflective.
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Sure, here are a couple of photos taken from outside of the holder. Even though the pictures aren't great, this is unfortunately as good as it'll get with my camera.


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I'd say AU-53 and attractive.
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This coin looks better than the seller's photos. Still appears to have been cleaned, and the dark toning is very good at concealing fine hairlines. It looks to have been artificially toned, that green and blue central color is unusual. Strong luster in protected areas, I will bump my grade from XF-45 up to AU-50.
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Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955
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I'm at AU-50.
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The color is questionable and my grade would be AU50 if it straight grades.

It appears to be a very nice piece. I agree with some of the other posts that it may well have been recolored.
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