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Talers From Munich Visit

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So... I have put together a quick summary of my very brief visit to Munich. I went there for a conference and once it was concluded I had 3 hours to see Munich (which had a severe snow storm - see pics).

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I asked the concierge about coin shops in the city and he gave me 3. These stores had tremendous breadth in supply primarily forcused on German materials. I immediately thought of Brent (wcg) as this is exactly the place for him to visit.

1) Numismatic Lanz - http://www.numislanz.de/
2) Gorny & Mosch - http://www.gmcoinart.de/
3) Kunker - http://www.kuenker.de/detail_html.a...id=1&nid=142

All are within a small radius which made this very efficient. Given the limited time I had I quickly scanned through the stores for Austrian Talers. I brought with me (just in case) coins I wanted to trade up/in, and was able to get my hands on the following:

1) 1638 Salzburg Taler
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2) 1721 Olmutz Taler
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02/12/2009 06:59 am
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As always beautiful coins. What are the pictures of?
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Great pictures of the place, and beautiful coins! What is the building in the 2nd picture?

With the talk of the new German laws regarding coins, I was worried you would have trouble either with your coins or getting out of the country with your new ones. I'm glad you made it home safely with coins intact!
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Actually security at airport spotted them and did not make an issue of this.
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The pictures are of the main pedestrian zone in the old city of Munch.
The beautiful Gothic building in the second pic. is "Neues Rathause"
The new City Hall . ( from the 17 century)
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Knowing some of your collection, this seems like the perfect city to visit. Glad you could get over there--and great coins!
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Awesome coins. Zohar444! I'm glad to see that this trip was quite fruitful.
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Zohar - thanks for sharing the pics. Munich is definitely on my list of places to visit. I think you made some good purchases - both pieces have a nice rich originality to them. One of these days I will find an Olmutz piece to add to my own collection - I really like the design.

Did you have good experiences in each of the stores? I only recognize the name of a dozen German dealers, and somehow you managed to visit 3 of them in one afternoon. Impressive. How many talers were you able to look at at each place? How was the coin browsing experience in a German store compared to a US dealer store or show?

Brent

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Beautiful coins Zohar. You just keep posting great stuff, I am going to have to break down and start learning about all these wonderful talers.
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Haha... sorry to say this but I'm more interested in seeing pics of Munich!
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Hi Brent,


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Did you have good experiences in each of the stores?


Generally yes. They all seemed geared towards a "meeting by appointment" routine vs. walk in, given their established presence in the region. I had to wait for the representative conclude his appointment to have a look myself. I ended up purchasing from Gorny and Mosch as the other stores had most of the Austrian materials in their auction catalog. The German material (high end) was widely available at the store display.

Negotiating was welcomed and the prices were adjusted - no pushback on the negotiation.


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How many talers were you able to look at at each place?


Gorny & Mosch - Mostly focused on antiques, German coins and Medals. I had maybe 15 Austrian Talers to look at. German material I would say hundreds of pieces.

Kunker - Mostly auction.

Lanz - HIGH END Austrian material, way above my budget. Double Talers, and rarer designs.


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How was the coin browsing experience in a German store compared to a US dealer store or show?


I dont go to many US stores (mostly shows/online). The displays are very elequant, trays, coin descriptions and price. Each store had a library of reference books which made it seem very knowledgable and the general store layout and design made it seem like a true business.
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With the talk of the new German laws regarding coins, I was worried you would have trouble either with your coins or getting out of the country with your new ones.

Interesting. Right in this forum we have just had a discussion about those supposedly "new laws". But apparently rumors are more attractive than facts ...

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the general store layout and design made it seem like a true business

We used to have quite a few "traditional" coin stores in Germany, with trays full of coins in the windows. And some of them still exist; I know of one in the city where I live (but I'm not in Bavaria). However, that shop type has to a large extent been replaced by web stores. And yes, the places that aim at "high end" customers sure have a different appearance ...

Sorry about the lousy weather.

Christian
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