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Edited by CoinHI
07/30/2022 11:06 pm
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Just guessing here,not really my area. PMD and a minor RPM. John1  |
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I think it's a legitimate large, curved clip. The edge at the missing area shows the telltale shear / breakaway from the gang punch and the odd shape would be due to metal flow into Jefferson's shoulder and the dome of the Monticello as opposed to the fields. A missing Blakesley Effect isn't a problem as it is often absent on coins with large clips. I'm not sure about the mint mark but the split serif looks good.  ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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That is a strange shaped clip...no where is there any shape resemblance to the circumference of a nickel?
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To me, I see RPM. Not sure on clip but could be genuine.
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To start. Really great pictures.
Looks like RPM from here. The clip does look strange and pretty cool.
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nice RPM!
As for the clip, I think it is a real one after seeing the edge pic. The clip could have been rounder before the strike, but the pressure most likely pushed the rim portions of the clip closer together as the metal moved to form the design.
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Good on all cylinders here !
Excellent error !
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Bedrock of the Community
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Any other devices affected like that on that area in that direction. It could be movement in the chamber from the clip on the planchet? So the jury is still out for me. I agree with the clips on the planchet, but want to rule out movement of the planchet, in the collar during the strike. What concerns me it the shape of the SE bottom edge of the mintmark. Never seen something like that before. It maybe a single coin issue, where a RPM will show this on every coin struck with that die.
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for a clip that size I'd expect some distortion of the devices nearest the clip, but none is visible, so IMO it's PMD |
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Sometimes the movement is farthest from the area in question. IE on the setup on a blank, where the clip is, there will be a weakness on the opposite side of the coin, because there was no pressure to form that edge, called a Blakesley affect. Not sure if that pertains to this issue during the strike. So if is was a RPM, there would be a million copies of it out there. It is was planchet movement, it could happen on only one coin. (this is what makes me question it being a RPM)
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07/31/2022 1:07 pm
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I agree on both clips. Strange shape but the cut edge is from a punch. You can see the vertical lines from the cut. Don't know of any punches that would be that strange shape. So it started out as a round clip, and as stated above the metal moved into the clip when it was struck. And it is a strange MM.
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I agree it's a double clip for all the reasons Yokozuna mentioned.
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Thanks for the feedback CCF!
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If this clip happened before the strike, I would expect the devices adjacent the clip to taper like in coop's image below, but they don't.  |
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Posted 07/31/2022 05:12 am
