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How Far Back Can We Go? Seventh Edition! Ended At 1380 Waiting On 1379

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 Posted 10/07/2023  03:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Usually the first gets to name it... does that mean Sweden was the first place to use this technique?
And yes, that's a really cool coin!!

Another 1/4 thaler of the Poland-Lithuania Commonwealth for 1624, this time struck in Bydgoszcz.
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For today, I have this Polish 3 Groschen which was minted in Krakow:

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 Posted 10/08/2023  02:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Keith67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Poland-Lithuania Commonwealth 1623 Ort struck in Danzig
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Nice! Me, too:
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 Posted 10/08/2023  03:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ttkoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth coin
1623 3 Polker Sigismund III Vasa - MInted at Bydgoszcz, Poland
Silver (.700)


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I suspect we will be looking at Sigismund III's face quite a bit. Here he is on a 3 Groschen:

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And here is a Polish 1 Groschen that mentions his name, but doesn't include a portrait with that iconic beard.

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That grosz is not seen as often as the other types, and gives us four different denominations for 1623

I'll make it 8 in a row for Sigismund, starting 1622 with another ort stuck in Bydgoszcz:
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I'll break the cycle with this 1622 1 Dreipölker
Brandenburg-Prussia Georg Wilhelm
Minted in Berlin
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A pair of jetons from 1622, made in the province of Gelderland
variant of the same issue in Dugniolle 3796 - linked to the image of an embleme book

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1622 Dugn.3796, vOrden1157, Tas458 Gelderland 'Siege of Bergen op Zoom'
OBV Lion eats from vine bush Gelders coat of arms ALLICIT VT PERIMAT 1622
REV Stork feeds eel to young PIETAS TVTISSIMA VIRTVS
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for 1621, here are two jetons from Brabant, Southern Provinces

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Dugn.3782: mint of Antwerp
OBV Habsburg coat of arms G P L CHAM DES COMP EN BRA
REV Man restrains wild horse PERAGIT TRANQVILLA POTESTAS 16Z1

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Dugn.3778 mint of Brussels ''Justice of the archdukes'
OBV Habsburg coat of arms ALBERTVS ET ISABELLA DG
REV Crown with scepter QVI RECTE FACIET 1621
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This 3 Polker was minted in Bydgoszcz in 1622:

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 Posted 10/10/2023  01:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I got confused by the late-starting days and by 1c5d's unexpected 1621 jetons, and I almost hadn't realized it was 1622 day...

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Bohemia, Ferdinand II
1/4 kipper kreuzer, 1622
KM# 280, Numista 104706

The photo on Numista is mine (a lightened version of the pic in the post), but due to a misunderstanding of the Numista photo byline system at the time it's not labeled as mine. I also wrote the entry, which explains the obvious missing links.

Since then I recall having made better pics, but if so I apparently never uploaded them to CCF? I'll try to check in my phone pic archive.
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Back to Poland-Lithuania Commonwealth with a trojak / 3 groszy for 1621:
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Glad to see that coin @j1m--I remember when you posted it here trying to figure out what it was.

Another 3 Polker from me for today:
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