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1994 Penny-Double Pillars On Reverse?

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it looks like there is doubling in the pillars, any particular reason why? face of the penny included
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 Posted 08/03/2022  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Elemental67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im not no coin expert but search up 1994 double die reverse I found somethings saying its $25 to $500
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Im pretty sure its not doulbling but I'm almost 100% sure that its a 1994 Wide AM which can value around $100
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Im not no coin expert but search up 1994 double die reverse I found somethings saying its $25 to $500

This is not a DD, it is Machine Doubling. Look at ebay sold auctions, you will find a more exact price range than $25-$500. That is a very broad spectrum that a significant portion of U.S coins fall under.

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Im pretty sure its not doulbling but I'm almost 100% sure that its a 1994 Wide AM which can value around $100

Not a Wide AM either. The FG initials aren't correct for the Wide AM.
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No DDR and no Wide AM either. Typical cent with 3-D pillars built into design. Keep searching.
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I agree with Merc. The pillars are lines doubled. Maybe COOP will post here the photo to understand. The design is base on how we see from front. The lines show the back pillars.

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I see a normal cent. No MD either.
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There are false columns on the design that makes it look 3-D in affect:
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They are there to show the rows of columns behind these 4 areas.
Die polishing often removes these sub devices as the die ages. Note on your coin the ones on Bay 1 & 11 have already been polished out. This is common to see. On your coin the bay 4 appears to be something, but it is not a DDR. It is just common die polishing to remove a clash on that area of the die:
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So that column was reduced on the field, thus the full column is weakened, the making it look like something when it is actually a reduction of that column device. Not a DDR. The DDR's back then tend to be on the centers of the bays:
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Even these will reduce as the dies age and are polished over an over:
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So your coin is not a DDR, just a die reduction from abrasion on the die on that area. (As well as Bay 1 & 11)

CoopHome: What causes the devices on the Memorial to alter with age? die wear and die polishing
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Seems strange that the MD could be on one side of the pillar in two cases (right side) and on the other side (left side) in one case. Wouldn't the doubling go in one direction?

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Seems strange that the MD could be on one side of the pillar in two cases (right side) and on the other side (left side) in one case. Wouldn't the doubling go in one direction?

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Actually, there are not false columns behind columns 1, 5, 8, and 12. There are actual columns behind 1 and 12 to got down the sides and rear to wrap the building. Behind 5 and 8 there are no columns what you see there is the Yule Marble that make up the entry way to the inner chambers. Behind 6 and 7 are 2 columns, as can be seen in the image below (provided by Wikipedia) Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Memorial
Blue arrows show the columns behind the front row.
Red Arrow show the wall and entry to the interior.
When viewing the memorial from straight on dead center you can see the 2 walls just inside and behind columns 5 and 8. Some people think that these are columns but are not. and are also not doubling on a Lincoln Cent.
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on the coin from dead center viewing: Red arrows indicate the side of the opening to the inner chamber.
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Thanks to all for the education.

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Just another day here. We learn new stuff sometimes daily here.
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I'm pretty sure if it was Machine Doubling it would be more uniformed due to a machine making the gouge as where this the fourth pillar in only half the pillar is doubled and it's not uniformed starts out thin and gets thicker and according to a picture of the Lincoln Memorial posted on this thread there is not a second row of pillars right there in addition when it is Machine Doubling there would be more doubling in other places due to the movement of the planchette during strike
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