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Valued Member
Germany
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Edited by HP2001PH
08/10/2022 07:15 am
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Valued Member
United States
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Valued Member
 Germany
312 Posts |
Yeah, its got to be a fake, right?
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21786 Posts |
I am not an expert with these.
The only thing that makes me a bit suspicious is how well the reverse legends are struck up. Perhaps they are just too sharp.
Maybe?two reasons for this:
1. This coin is the result of a die pressure trial, - for more usual business strikes the die pressure was much less.
2. Coin is a fake made from recycled .900 fine silver. A top condition coin was laser scanned and a very precise digital model created for instructions to cut a new die, and properly hardened, and maybe electro nickel faced to further harden the striking surface of the die.
To make the die as precise to the original, the cutting could have been done with the assistance of an electron microscope. The only fault that makes me a bit suspicious, is that the reverse legends are too high in relief.
I have had access to this sort of apparatus to investigate the authenticity of ancient coins.
All of the above is postulation on my part, but perhaps it deserves at least some discussion.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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To me, it seems like the legends just don't look right. If you compare to existing copies it looks like it could be a fake. I'd be dubious, looks too good to be true right?
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Valued Member
Germany
312 Posts |
Its fake I am sure now. Plumage of the eagle is way off.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10034 Posts |
Screams fake to my eyes. Too many off details to the design elements.
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Valued Member
United States
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@HP2001HP
It appears to me to be a marriage of a legit obverse and a fake reverse. As you noticed the plummage is not quite right. Neither are the shapes of the letters. All based upon looking at a picture. A scope inspection would certainly show a lot more that indicates fake.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Counterfeit
Just look at the rays on the reverse, they are too thick
for a well struck coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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While I believe its real and just heavily photo processed, I wouldn't take the risk. Look at all fields, they are soft. Even the picture just doesn't look like right. I know you want a Peace dollar, I'm going to my coin shop this week if you want I can pick a nice one and send you some photo's. It will be much cheaper than ebay. Message me and I'll email/text you some pictures. You can then work out a deal with the coin shop owner to have him ship it to you. |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I agree:- feather detail on eagle's back more distinct on Photograde MS-61(ref.) coin genuine business strike, (which according to my reasoning above) shows up with less die pressure. Thus:- false dies for coin referred to in OP's ebay link. Reported condition MS-65 irrelevant. |
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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reverse is all wrong. stay away...far away
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Agree, run fast and far from this one.
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Valued Member
Germany
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hfjacinto, Kind offer, but I am good, thanks. I do own several Peace dollars, just monitoring ebay on the look for nice copies. They hardly come up though. |
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Moderator
 United States
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I know someone who will know for sure, I'll get back to you.
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Moderator
United States
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It won't be available much longer, so here is image of reverse.  Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here)See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) |
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Posted 08/10/2022 07:40 am
