Another 1909 VDB Your Thoughts

a little hope. I can agree with AU58 or MS63. I think the lighting and shadowing might be throwing everyone off along with the weak strike on the obv

try posting better photos with a tad more lighting if want a second look

@Indian: The dots and the B.

I see nothing to indicate this is not genuine. It's a mid to mid/late die state and potentially an AU-55/58 example. Where I'm struggling is with the wheat lines, they seem to indicate wear. What pushed me to leaning MS is the rims. They are excellent and free of any major dings.

The limitations of photo grading make it IMPOSSIBLE to truly grade a coin from such. When we assign a grade on the web it's merely an educated guess. Don't take everyone's guess as the gospel - use it to reinforce or question your own opinion. Only you have the coin in hand.....and it's a beauty IMO!

So I'm destined to be a crummy photographer...
There are a couple of rim dings noticable on the obverse at K-5...but the rest looks pretty clean...he does look a bit soft though.
After further review...he's BR...not enough RD.
I really appreciate all the guidance and support!
smat

I see the answer in your scale picture! Notice how white the buttons on the scale look? You have the correct white balance in that photo. This is most likely closer to what the coin looks like in hand. AU-55 is my grade - mostly based off of that one picture.

Notice in your second set of pictures that your white background (thank you for using WHITE!) is yellowish. That means the white balance is off and the true color of coin cannot be determined. Yes, we can see the details (great job!) but not the color. You have options to get that background snow white:

1) Adjust your lighting. Look at the coin through the camera from your shooting position and move your light around until the background looks white. ALWAYS use a bright white background (I use copy paper) for internet pictures so we can gauge your white balance.
2) Calibrate your camera white balance against the background you're using (white). If you're using a phone, I'm not sure that's possible so you may be stuck with #1.

You have the ability to post excellent pictures, you just need to nail down the color and you're there!

I use BOTH lighting AND white balance with my Canon camera. Spending a few buck on a good, strong desk lamp is worth the money if you're going to keep shooting coins. This is the lamp I'm currently using:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...GHKHGX9&th=1

I have a 1909 VDB and it weighs 3.1 grams. Found in circulation about a year ago. Unfortunately some one decorated Lincoln's head, so worth nothing. Kept it anyway.

i have to agree even though that photo is small it does have the look of an AU55 coin using this one.

After seeing your latest photos I'll bump my grade of it to MS-63RB. Still nothing shows this one to be fake.