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A Couple Of Chinese Half Cents On Ebay

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There are two Chinese copies of US Half Cents being sold on ebay.
I sent a message to the seller yesterday to let him know, but no response. 1803 spiked chin? Bidding was up to $113.50 when I last looked.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304607757863

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1803 Spiked Chin!! That's a funny one.
Suffering from bust half fever.
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The seller did finally contact me a few minutes ago and said:

" ebay does not allow fake coins and would have taken it down if that were true. have a nice day!"

I sent a reply to the seller explaining why they could not be genuine. Hopefully, that will help get them removed.
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Nothing happens unless you report it. I just did. Select "copyright & trademark", then the two "counterfeit" drop down options, then a brief reason.
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Thanks kbbpll.
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Almost comical.
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Phil310 said...


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The seller did finally contact me a few minutes ago and said:

" ebay does not allow fake coins and would have taken it down if that were true. have a nice day!"


I sent a message to the seller and got the same reply as this, word for word. The listing now has 18 bids at $113.50.
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Phil310, I may be missing something here, but why can't these be genuine? Thanks.
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The 1803 was copied from an 1804 die with the spiked chin (probably Cohen 6). They then removed the date so they could make dies with different dates. The reverses of both coins were copied from an 1804 Cohen 6, so that reverse would not be paired with either of the dates 1803 or 1805. The numerals of the dates are nothing like the numerals on genuine coins either. There have been a lot of these showing up on ebay for the last few years.
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Chances are the seller knows exactly what these are.
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Phil310 really knows his stuff!

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Yeah, the digits are terrible and the "spikec chin" variety was fir 1804 only...that I am aware of.
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Yeah, the digits are terrible and the "spikec chin" variety was for 1804 only...that I am aware of.
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Just checked this auction.

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This listing was ended by the seller because the item was sold.

Last bid was $120.50

I really hope that someone isn't out that much for counterfeit coins.
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Just checked this out and it seems the listing has gone poof...for now...
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Hopefully the seller just ended the listing without actually selling them to anyone. There are way too many of these Chinese fake coins in the marketplace.

Nothing is more discouraging to a new collector than finding out a coin you bought in good faith is a counterfeit. I bought what I thought was a XF 1799 US silver dollar in the late 1970's from a reputable dealer for $ 530.00. It was by far the most I had ever paid for a coin (and still is). It turned out to be a modern counterfeit. I found this out when an expert on counterfeit coins was at a coin show and agreed to check out coins for free to those attending. I was stunned when he told me it wasn't real and explained the features that identified it as a counterfeit. The story ends well for me though. The reputable dealer I bought it from was at the same show and in less than 10 minutes, I had been refunded the $ 530.00. I became very cautious about buying any coin and it really discouraged me for a time. I also began to buy books and learn as much as I could about the coins I was interested in.

So I learned two very important things from the experience. 1 - Study and learn about the coins you collect 2 - Always buy expensive coins from a reputable dealer.

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