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The Head Styles Of 1839 Large Cent

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1839 was a strange year for large cent design. there are 5 distinct types.

first off is the 1839/6. this coin is N-1. the punch is an inverted 9 rather than a 6 but the name stuck. you can find this misidentified as an 1838 with some regularity. excuse the quality, these get hard in higher grade. one die marriage. N-1.
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next the 1839 head of 1838. this coin is N-2. the lack of brow lock on the forehead is the easiest way to differentiate this from the similar looking silly head. two die marriages. N-2 and N-3
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here is the 1839 petite head. this coin is N-8. this is a rather distinct head style. this design was used till 1843 when it was replaced with the mature head. one die marriage. N-8
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The silly head. this coin is N-9. this is the toughest style. it can be hard to tell the silly head from the head of 1838. the lock of hair on the forehead is the biggest difference. two marriages. N-4 and N-9
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The booby head. this coin is n-14. Easily the most common type. more than half of all the 1839 cents are from this one year type. note the shoulder poking through the hair and the lack of an underline for cent. 8 marriages. N-5,6,7,11,12,13,14,15.
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Very helpful, thank you! Nice coins as well, they are very eye appealing. The obverse crack on the silly head is super neat!
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Why are those two types called "silly" and "booby"?
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i do not have a conclusive answer to that question. I would love to know where those names originated. they have been around for a long time.
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I would love to know where those names originated.
http://goccf.com/t/215992#1870640

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Interestingly enough the names "Silly Head" and "Booby Head" were coined by coin collector W.E. Woodward in the 1860s and referred to the stupid look on Liberty's face.
The linked reply shows examples of each.
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i have heard that account. I have also heard the names attributed to Joseph Mickley, Montroville Dickerson, Ebenezer Locke Mason Jr, Frank Andrews, and a variety of auction houses. it could have been any of their wives or cousins or friends.

what is known for certain is that the terms were in widespread use before the american civil war.

it seems likely that booby was referring to something goofy rather than female anatomy.

my personal theory is that they were used colloquially starting with the production of the coin. I think the general population was using those terms before anyone was writing collector guides or auction descriptions. I dont have primary source material to back up this claim.
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NGC blurb says the names have been around for 150 years, so that lines up with the above. I figured "booby" had something to do with the portrait looking like a dope or a "stupid mistake", which I suppose could be a reference to the hair going behind the bust. Now that the coins are "classic", those monikers seem a little harsh.
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