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Italy
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I am wholly unfamiliar with this coin. Any thoughts and opinions on grade would be appreciated. It's currently at a local shop for about $450-460. I may sell a worn sovereign at a slight loss to buy it. Thank you!    Edited by Roma2021
09/07/2022 12:17 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Photos aren't very sharp, I'm closer to MS60 but it could drop down to AU. That price is more in keeping with an AU grade for this coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Good price at this time. I think it is low mint state, MS-62.
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Pillar of the Community
 Italy
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Thank you. I thought AU. Gold shops here tend to price at gold weight + X with little regard for numismatics.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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After a closer look at this coin I do believe it is a counterfeit. Check the beads on Liberty's hair and some of the hair curls. They do not match this genuine PCGS coin.    Edited by IndianGoldEagle
09/07/2022 5:34 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Unsure of authenticity. Otherwise, I'll say MS-61, possibly 62, not a fan.
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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@indiangoldeagle... I haven't bought the coin yet. What in particular in the beads are you seeing that's causing concern?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Good chance it is a fake.
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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@jim... Tell me what's indicating fake?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If counterfeit it's not a blatant one. I would suspect an ex-jewelry piece given the very baggy obverse and what looks like damage along the right obverse rim, possibly from mounting in a bezel.
The 1886-S is a common date and should be priced close to bullion value in this condition. I would think a nicer example could be found for around the same price.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Compare the bead sizes in the hair. Compare the hair curl shapes and sizes. I believe this is a Lebanese counterfeit made in the 1970s-1980's time period. They were very close to the originals but small design features were off. Much better quality than what comes from China now but still fake. They were used strictly for gold sales back then.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Also compare the shapes of the reverse lettering. Larger photos of the OP coin would help show this.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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It sure appears to be a counterfeit. Good eye IGE!
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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This is interesting. I am not going to buy the coin, but I am still having some difficulty distinguishing it as a counterfeit. I trust it is, but I am looking for telltale signs that it is fake. The hair beads and curves look to my amateurish eye like a weak strike. If anyone is interested, I am open to learning as much as possible so please keep this thread going . . .
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