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Rip Queen Elizabeth: King Charles III On Coins?

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Now that Queen Elizabeth II has passed (RIP), how long do you think that King Charles III will appear on coins and currency? I knew this day was coming soon. She has looked so frail as of recently. Anyways is there a general rule here?
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I think it will depend on the date of the coronation. Normally coins don't bear the new monarch's portrait until after they are crowned - for instance, the only coins issued for Edward VIII were for Fiji, New Guinea and British East and West Africa, which had centre holes and didn't show the king's portrait.
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Interesting that Charles chose his own name as monarch, which he did not have to do. Queen Elizabeth's father Albert chose the name George VI, for example.
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 Posted 09/08/2022  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I assume we'll all have to wait for The Royal Mint to make an announcement about the change.
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The main "hold-up" is going to be the portrait. Protocol would have prevented any "official coinage portrait" of Charles while his mother was still alive, so the RCM - and every other mint in the Commonwealth - won't have a design "ready to go" yet. And I suspect it will be another month or so at least before they get to that stage. It's already September, so there simply isn't enough time left this year; I think we can say with confidence there aren't going to be any 2022 dated coins with Charles III's portrait.

2023-dated coins ought to all have Charles III's portrait, but how far into 2023 the striking of 2023-dated coins will commence, is anyone's guess. If there are delays in getting the portrait approved and coins are needed for circulation purposes in early 2023, I suspect they will continue to strike 2022 coins, with the Queen's portrait, until the new design is ready to go.

For me the bigger question is, What will the RCM do with all the coins they've probably already started making, dated 2023 but with Elizabeth II's portrait on them? Seems to me that they'd have to melt them down and re-issue them.
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I would expect Charles III (if he chooses that name) coinage to begin in 2023. QEII started in 1953 even though she became queen in 1952.
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I do not think that the coronation of Charles III will take place in 2022.
Therefore coins bearing Elizabeth II effigy could be struck in early 2023. These coins could be scarce, but they will not be rare.

There will be no coins of 2022 date bearing King Charles III's effigy.
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If there are delays in getting the portrait approved and coins are needed for circulation purposes in early 2023, I suspect they will continue to strike 2022 coins, with the Queen's portrait, until the new design is ready to go
If so, would they keep tradition and put a maple leaf or a dot on them, to signify that they are not really 2022 coins? I'm guessing the new portrait will face left.
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Now that Queen Elizabeth II has passed (RIP), how long do you think that King Charles III will appear on coins and currency?

That depends on how long he reigns as King. He ain't no spring chicken. Or did you mean "how long do you think that BEFORE King Charles III will appear on coins and currency?"
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Word is that Charles III will appear on coins starting sometime in 2023..Designs have to be approved by him personally. As far as banknotes go, there are no immediate plans until it is decided that new designs / security features are warranted. That could be 2023 - 2025...
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The coronation is likely to be late spring/early summer - the history of allowing for parade and pageant with the monarchy means that the weather would need to be nice, but that could really mean anytime from the end of April until the end of August (less fancy - for more distant royals - events seem to come in September). Due to his age and his requests for a smaller ceremony, it will be less flamboyant for a coronation, which also means earlier is possible. His mourning time is likely to need to be less than that of his mother after losing her father simply due to her age - a sad loss, but not unexpected given her 96 years. After that, it really depends what has been prepped before.
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One thing is for sure, he'll be facing 'left' on the obverse.
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Sneak peek?

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I think the head will have a crown. Important to display the authority with a new monarch.
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The BRM has released their approved portrait of King Charles. They will be releasing 3 tribute to QE II coins next week with the Kings portrait. I would guess the RCM will use the same or very similar portrait. @wallyb- no crown.
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It will happen at least as late as 2023. There could be Elizabeth coins struck in early 2023 if it's not ready. Anyways, it's a long time.
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