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Questionable 2021 Double Ear Penny

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 Posted 09/18/2022  4:32 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Halo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was looking through a roll of 2021 Pennies and I found
three of these so I wanted to see what you guys thought were.
Also on Liberty the R looks like maybe a chip on the
top right? One other thing on this one which doesn't show
On the other two I found the word "in" looks like it might be doubled?
I tried to adjust the lighting I hope you'll be able to see it okay.
If you guys can shed some light on this one for me, I would really
appreciate It. Thank you


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Are those pics of a monitor screen?
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Hi John1

I use the microscope and it brings up the picture
On the screen then I use my iPhone to take the picture. I dim the lights to only 1 light hoping it makes it easier to see.
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Please try to get your scope images to a Micro SD card and then to a computer so you can upload the actual image, not an image of an image. (It gets too pixelated in this manner.)
But as to your ear (the cents - not yours) it looks like it just took a little hit and flattened it out a bit making it look doubled. A doubled ear would be at the same height as the actual ear not lower than it as it does in your images.
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A doubled ear would be at the same height as the actual ear not lower than it as it does in your images.
I cannot tell a thing from the OP's pics but what you said here Dearborn, is the exact opposite of what a doubled die is, if it were a doubled die, it would extend outside of where the original ear is suppose to be.
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Thank you everyone
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Looks like a very high bounce of Machine Doubling that altered the tops of some devices. (most in the same direction on the coin) Very loose Machine Doubling. The kicker is that nothing is enlarged/distorted/showing spread. So the die was normal, the strike was normal and a post striking event of Machine Doubling came from a bounce post strike. It can't be a doubled die, as the die was normal. Machine Doubling event from the higher bounce. If this were any higher, this cent would have been normal. (And this conversation would never have occurred)
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It's really lighting issues and just how it reflects and such.
If you have this in hand, with a loupe and look for what you see in that exact pic of the "doubled ear" you won't see that at all you'll see a normally ear how it should look.
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Well note on the lower tip of the ear, you can see Machine Doubling there making the metal rise on that area. If it were a doubled ear, the ear would be larger, not reduced. When you look at closeups on the doubled ears, you will see more what I'm talking about.
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Enlarge this image and see how all the doubled ears are raised/showing spread on these. It is not just an altered ear that makes it was doubled ear DDO. It is the hub design, that alters the ear that makes it a doubled ear DDO. So take a look at these images.
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Hence why I said "doubled ear" referring that it isn't one.
Plus I wouldn't say MD here can't really see the md at all all that physical metal isn't there. In hand like I stated it'll look like a normal ear this is shadows, glare , reflection doubling playing tricks.
Lower tip? The white glare, that's just from the strike normally (die wear) slightly
Always seen under a scope like that
Either way for the OP look for doubled dies on Philly shield cents and on the main devices around the edge of the coin letters and numbers.
I don't spend to much Tim with denver nothing crazy there but there r some sick errors
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it would extend outside of where the original ear is suppose to be

Yes that is true - but I was referring to elevation from the field, not separation from the original
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Yes that is true - but I was referring to elevation from the field, not separation from the original
Gotcha, totally misunderstood.
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Thank you Coop and everyone. There were actually three different ones but
They stood out with the whole roll so I tried to get the good picture of it, but
I really messed up today and tried getting the SD card into my lap top
And my lap top couldn't read it. So I looked up how others did it and Isaw a person put the sd card into the phone so I thought I would try it,and now I can't get the Sd card out of there lol. I'm pretty frustrated, I'll be back when I try to get a good picture but I want to thank you all for trying to help me out with this. Also I should of point out double earlobe not esr. I really messed up tried and did not succeed with what I was trying to do. Sorry guys.
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Looks more like coin contact to me. Note the area is lower not raised, like a doubled ear would look like.
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