New To This Real Or Counterfeit/Fake And Maybe Tell Me More (1804 Half Cent)

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Briandaigler New Member United States 4 Posts	Posted 10/08/2022 5:31 pm * Edited by Staff to Add Year / Mintmark / Denomination to Title. Titles are Important! * Edited by Briandaigler 10/08/2022 5:38 pm Report this Post to the Staff

nfine Pillar of the Community United States 3469 Posts	Posted 10/08/2022 5:34 pm Please provide a photo of the obverse of the coin. Oh, and to CCF. Report this Post to the Staff
smat45 Pillar of the Community United States 2333 Posts	Posted 10/09/2022 07:40 am F/VF Details cleaned/polished smat Report this Post to the Staff
JimmyD Bedrock of the Community Canada 21602 Posts	Posted 10/09/2022 07:47 am Looks genuine but has been harshly cleaned making it a details coin. Report this Post to the Staff
Jerry Picker Valued Member United States 480 Posts	Posted 10/09/2022 08:56 am It's listed as a token with a question mark. I don't trust this auction house. https://hibid.com/lot/133319488/180...ref=lot-list Edited by Jerry Picker 10/09/2022 08:58 am Report this Post to the Staff
panzaldi Bedrock of the Community United States 18657 Posts	Posted 10/09/2022 1:14 pm I'm not familiar if there are more varieties than just stem or no stem for this year but the cross on the 4 should be completely vertical not bent. the right tail of the bow is too close to the 200 and the 1 looks funky in the denomination. several of the berries are not positioned correctly near their respective leaves . to me the coin is suspicious but it may be a different die Report this Post to the Staff
JimmyD Bedrock of the Community Canada 21602 Posts	Posted 10/09/2022 1:19 pm The crosslet 4 is a variety as is the bows on the wreath. Report this Post to the Staff
collector.detector Pillar of the Community United States 505 Posts	Posted 10/09/2022 1:31 pm Authentic coin that's been polished. The auction house seems like they've never heard of a Half Cent before. Report this Post to the Staff
kbbpll Pillar of the Community United States 4233 Posts	Posted 10/09/2022 2:27 pm There is a whole family of struck counterfeits based off the 1804 Half Cent and I certainly wouldn't buy one raw off of HiBid. Here's a Jack Young article on these. https://coinweek.com/counterfeits/s...-half-cents/ Report this Post to the Staff
IndianGoldEagle Bedrock of the Community United States 36738 Posts	Posted 10/09/2022 3:14 pm This one looks fake to me. Report this Post to the Staff
burfle23 Pillar of the Community United States 517 Posts	Posted 10/09/2022 5:24 pm Recent Chinese fake based on a C-6 1804 Half Cent; matches the 1st ones in my article @kbbpll cited. The spike was blunted off in the die to strike other dates. The reverse die breaks of the early die state were partially removed as well. This auction venue has had its share of documented fakes for sale... Report this Post to the Staff
burfle23 Pillar of the Community United States 517 Posts	Posted 10/09/2022 5:27 pm Genuine example: Report this Post to the Staff
collector.detector Pillar of the Community United States 505 Posts	Posted 10/09/2022 9:14 pm I stand corrected. Thank you kpppll for the good read. Report this Post to the Staff
IndianGoldEagle Bedrock of the Community United States 36738 Posts	Posted 10/10/2022 08:50 am Thanks Burfle23, great post pointing out the problem areas. Report this Post to the Staff
wallyb Pillar of the Community Canada 557 Posts	Posted 10/19/2022 6:26 pm Burfle23 your contributions are appreciated, even on the Canadian forum! Report this Post to the Staff
nickelsearcher Moderator United States 15414 Posts	Posted 10/20/2022 05:13 am to the CCF. Appears that you have your answer now thanks to burfle23 Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art Report this Post to the Staff
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New To This Real Or Fake And Maybe Tell Me More (1804 Half Cent)