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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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I ran across this listing which surely cannot be legal. "Coins" are not marked as "copy" or "replica" as far as I can tell. It seems that they also reproduce other rare coins. For $20, this is an invitation to scammers. I've never dealt with anyone on that site - perhaps the experts will weigh in. Morgan silver dollar 1893 S Toned Finish Rare Key Date Coin Collectors "This is a very high quality silver/copper Morgan new-mint that I made myself. This coin is correct in weight, dimensions, and detail, with a very nice toned finish!" https://www.etsy.com/listing/124732...e:1247323750  Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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United States
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21786 Posts |
An admitted forgery. Ummmmm.
It seems that most copiers get away with it.
Can be tested with comparative ping tone, against known genuine.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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this listing which surely cannot be legal Wild, wild west on Etsy.. The owners of the site could care less if fakes are sold on there. And there are lots of them. Makes it harder on the honest seller's. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Give the guy credit for honesty.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3848 Posts |
That is pretty much what Etsy is consisted of, coin wise. Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The seller is unequivocally violating the law. They would be better off pretending the coin is real and claiming ignorance, instead of admitting "I made it myself." That puts them in the category of "engaged in the manufacturing, or importation into the United States for introduction into or distribution in commerce, of imitation political or imitation numismatic items." They therefore absolutely must have COPY incused on the coin in the legally described dimensions.
Not that anybody will do anything about it, but a listing like that is just dumb. You're stating for all the world to see that you know it's a counterfeit.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would assume that is no different than creating/producing counterfeit bills. The feds would probably be interested in talking to this person.
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Valued Member
Germany
312 Posts |
I suspect the FBI has more pressing matters to attend to.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2001 Posts |
More than likely, the "I Made It Myself" refers to the artificial toning rather than the actual production of the coin which was probably produced on a Chinese press. Counterfeit Rare coins may dupe an amateur but rarely a professional with access to XRF and a close comparison to a genuine example. Subtle differences will be observed to the trained eye.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote:silverwolf said:Wild, wild west on Etsy.. The owners of the site could care less if fakes are sold on there. And there are lots of them. Makes it harder on the honest seller's. The owner of this site may be you. It certainly is me. Etsy is a publicly traded stock that is included in the Russell 1000, Nasdaq Composite, Russell 3000 and S&P 500. If you own the stock or any of the securities indices above, then the owner of the Etsy site is you. If you have a pension, annuity, fund, insurance policy, or are a member of a municipality that is invested in Etsy stock or one of these indices, you are again the owner of this site illegally selling fake coins. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The real question is where is the seller located? If they are in the US then yes what they are doing is illegal. If they are located in China then what THEY are doing is perfectly legal. And if you live in the US and buy it then YOU are the one committing the crime, not them.
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Posted 10/31/2022 12:36 am
