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1983 FS 802 Lincoln Memorial Cent

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 Posted 11/01/2022  8:04 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Darjomar to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I believe I have found the fs-802. Got it CRH today what do you guys think?
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 Posted 11/02/2022  12:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add surfacewave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to tell from pics but to me it looks like Machine Doubling to me. Maybe others with more experience will chime in as I am learning also
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 Posted 11/02/2022  05:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The top of the O (ONE) is reduced in width/thickness by the doubling which means its MD.
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 Posted 11/02/2022  08:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darjomar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like an increase in size to me but I could be wrong
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Need better photos,but my vote is MD.
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 Posted 11/02/2022  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In the latest image, the light is reflecting differently off the top of ONE than it does in the first image but I'm not seeing the extra thickness.

Maybe add a link to the variety for quick comparison.
Thanks
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 Posted 11/02/2022  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darjomar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's there "ONE"
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I see a tired die and lighting issues, no doubled die.

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I do not see this variety here.
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 Posted 11/02/2022  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add surfacewave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Darjomar,The first leg, bottom of the N, the serif area does not seem to match cc's ddr-02.
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 Posted 11/03/2022  12:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darjomar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fair enough, appreciate your expertise gents
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Note on the lower images posted by -makecents- the width of the devices are different. Also not on the bottom edge on the lower right side, there is a strong die scratch on that area on the DDR-002:
Not seen on the EDS examples:
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But seen on the mid die state coins:
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Why are they seen one this die state? Because of die polishing, the die scratches on that area show. On the open fields of the dies, these die scratches flatten faster. But next to a device, they will last longer. They will reduce in size as the dies continue to strike more coins. But they make a nice marker to look for in determining the die states. (On the inside of closed devices, these die scratches last the longest) How can I prove that?
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Note on this example, the die scratches have almost faded away, except to the ones inside of the mintmark? Just more information to remember.

CoopHome: Why are they important? They help identify certain dies if present. certain locations of scratches last longer on dies. fields fade fast. next to devices last longer. inside closed devices they last the longest.
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I agree, Machine Doubling.
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