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What Is Your Error Coin Statistical Expectation Per $25 Dollar Box Of Cents (2500)?

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Not sure if this is the right place to post but so far I've checked more than 100 boxes of cents and my statistical expectation is:

5-10 Clashes (minor and major) per box
2-4 DDR/DDO " "
5-10 Other errors of interest to me " "

I also hold on to all wheaties and foreigns
5-10 per box.

Total cents that don't make it back to Chase: 17-34 per box.

As I have gained experience, with the help of the amazing expertise her on the Coin Community forum, my tastes have gotten more refined.

Thank you.
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Over my several decades of cent roll searching--individual rolls from banks, and boxes too--my rates are a tad lower than yours, per 2500 coin increments.

1-2 visible die clashes per 5000 (2 boxes)

1-3 visible DDOs/DDRs per 10000 (4 boxes)

1-3 'other issues' per 5000 (2, boxes).

Wheats per box? Maybe 1-3. Foreign? 1-2 per box.
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I've been keeping an excel file for about 2 years now, though I have not been able to CRH all that much recently.

In $145.20 of cents in the past 2 years:

517 doubled dies (~89/box, 3.561% of cents are doubled dies) and that is mostly the extremely minor ones.

5 major die clashes (~0.86/box, 0.035% of cents are major die clashes) I'm picky with die clashes.

Other errors/varieties: 3x major strike throughs, 4x trail dies. 2x Cuds, 1x Retained Cud, 1x Wide AM, 10x RPMs

61x wheats (~10.5/box, 0.420% of cents), 1x Indian (~0.17/box, 0.007% of cents), 2x dimes and 21x foreign (neither of which I include in calculations)
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To answer your title question,it all depends on your expertise and knowing what to look for.If you can't tell the difference between a doubled die and MD you are not going to find many doubled dies...etc-etc.
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My expectations are nothing and everything. I've never actually kept track of finds per box and the only thing that comes to mind, after many, many boxes, are wheats, that seem to be 10 to 15 per box. John statement, about "expertise", goes a long way. The more you know is out there, the more you will find. It's good you have already refined your keeps though. I've found I do not keep but a very small percentage of what I did early on. Some things are just habits, I roll spike heads and give them away to those who are interested and roll doubled columns for others.

The main thing, is do it for enjoyment, don't make it a job and take a brake occasionally.
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Great statistical breakdown @Tanman2001. I should start keeping mine in a spread sheet too. I also photo and file all my most interesting/rare finds. 464/2 YTD.

Same here @makecents our tastes are becoming more refined.

@ijn1944 - I'm a rookie compared to you. How many million coins have you looked at?
"We are all flawed, some MD and some PMD."
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NY Islander -- I'd estimate somewhere between 2.7 - 3 million cents. Of that amount, around 90% were from rolls and the remainder from bags. Its another few million when considering nickels, dimes, quarters, halves, foreign, etc.

In my cent breakdown (a few posts above) I stress issues (errors, etc.) which are visible to the naked eye, or assisted by ~3X reading glasses. I only use higher magnification when something really fun/curious pops up, and then only out to 10X. max.
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In my current (growing) roll count of aproximately 4,300 rolls of cents, I average around ten boxes for a mint error find.
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My experiences have been along he lines of ijn1944's results.
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