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Does Spanish Doubloon Bull Have The Best Anti-Counterfeiting System In History?

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 Posted 12/01/2022  6:53 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add siro to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
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The spanish doubloon 2022 (The Bull) has the inclusion on the obverse of a security measure patented by the Fábrica Nacional de Moneda y Timbre - Real Casa de la Moneda itself, the quadruple latent image. This security measure makes it possible to see four different images in the same space on the coin, depending on the incidence of light and the angle at which it is viewed. The coin features the mintmark, a five-pointed star, the graphic euro symbol and the silhouette of the "columnar".
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The system made a piramide of four faces.

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The Spanish Royal Mint (FMNT) patented the system with to faces long time ago, now the patent is expired and other mints like the Royal English, used this kind of images with to faces, and because of that, the FMNT invented the system with four faces.

You can see the system. From 3:00 minut.
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What do you think? Is that the best system anti-counterfeiting that you cand find in a coin right now?
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 Posted 12/01/2022  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very impressive, siro - thank you for sharing this information!
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Pure genius and a gorgeous coin! Thanks for sharing this Siro.
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 Posted 12/02/2022  05:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add siro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A better explanation in english

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The effect is achieved on the metal, engraving a succession of square-based pyramids.
Each face of the pyramid works as a pixel so that all sides with the same orientation form a complete image.
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 Posted 12/02/2022  07:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like these security features. I wish more mints would do similar. The Britain Britannia security features are among the best, very tiny lettering you need a magnifier to read, changing laser image in a circle like this Spanish coin, waving lines in field, etc.

I'm disappointed the US Mint answer to fakes is a lame missing reed on the edge, easily faked IMO.
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It's amazing that the US Mint still doesn't have anything like it.
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 Posted 01/29/2023  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add siro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is there any news on whether US Mint will be introducing security measures in the next Eagle?
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Really impressive and a super gorgeous coin.
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Is there any news on whether US Mint will be introducing security measures in the next Eagle?
Whatever the Canadian Royal Mint does, consider us here in the USA, to be behind them by a few years, at least.
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Nice. It takes the similar feature on the British pound further. The problem really is that you can't see it in a photo. And for cheap coins, when someone hands you change, you don't hold each coin, tilting it in the light. The best security features would be more obvious.
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 Posted 02/02/2023  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add siro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But what you say happens with any coin you see in a photo. All images can be altered with Photoshop. Security measures only work if you can see the coin with your own eyes and hold it in your hand.
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There is a new edition in 2023, the horse.

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I like these. I bought one of the 2022 bull from the US distributor. But it arrived with scratches on the sphere, sent it back for refund. Damaged coins can happen from any mint or seller. I expect better condition, especially with expensive bullion with high premium.

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I'm sorry you were unlucky. You were right to protest. The maps of planet earth are wonderful on this coin and deserve to be had in good condition. I hope you got another coin in normal condition.
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The new Caballo with the same system

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