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1823 - Papal States - Bologna 1/2 Scudo

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Recent purchase, just thought I'd share. This is a SEDE VACANTE issue, meaning 'the time of the empty throne' in Latin. It is a term for the state of a diocese while without a bishop. In the canon law of the Catholic Church, the term is used to refer to the vacancy of the bishop's or Pope's authority upon his death or resignation.
There was only 39 days of SEDE VACANTE in 1823, from 20 August 1823 to 28 September 1823, so this coin was issued in this short period of time.

The coin has a diameter of 34mm, with very nice subtle toning. The reverse depicts the Holy Mother Church seated right on clouds, holding keys and model of a church. Although the photos don't show the lustre too well, the coin displays quite good remaining lustre on both sides, and I do think it may grade about an AU58. I will update after I get the grade back from NGC some time next year.

Hope you like the coin :)


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 Posted 12/12/2022  4:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Toby, that is a beautiful coin! And the historical attribution is a fantastic story. Thank you for sharing this and enlightening the community.
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Absolutely wonderful coin!
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Wow! Gorgeous!

When a pope was reigning, the coat of arms used on the coins was the family arms of the pope, topped by the papal tiara (also called the triregnum) and crossed keys.

During a Sede Vacante, the camerlengo acts as interim head of state, and the arms on the coins are the camerlengo's family arms topped by crossed keys and an umbrella. In this case we see the arms of Cardinal Bartolomeo Pacca.

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 Posted 12/13/2022  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kipster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a phenomenal piece that.

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Quote:
the camerlengo's family arms topped by crossed keys and an umbrella

With the cardinal's hat under the umbrella and the bird on top, I cannot help seeing a merry-go-round ...
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It does look like a merrygoround!

tdziemia: Thanks for that information, I couldn't seem to find anything out about the reverse design.
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Wow.
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 Posted 12/23/2022  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angelo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
before you send it weigh it, if it's a little off it might be fake. The B for Bolona seems a little wrong to me. I have handled a few of these coins.
Good luck
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If authenticity needs to be confirmed,
need accurate weight and density.
If it was centrifugally pressure die cast, the diameter may be a little less than for genuine.
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The coin weighs exactly 13.24 grams and has an exact diameter of 34.1mm measured with vernier calipers which is accurate to others I have compared to so I'm 99% sure it's a genuine.
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Very nice coin and interesting info.
Thanks for sharing!
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 Posted 02/22/2023  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TobyJ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NGC gave it AU58, about as I expected.


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 Posted 02/22/2023  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice coin! I have a few papal coins, one SEDE VACANTE from 1939.
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Hi! Oh,yes,very nice and high grade silver coin! For sure an AU58, if not even a MS60. Excellent find to add to a collection.
Congrats!
Good luck to other such finds!
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