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Fat Man Dollar Real Or Fake

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 Posted 01/10/2023  5:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Caddis to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I know this coin is a frequent topic of discussion on the board but I couldn't resist to ask whether you think this is real or fake. It is non magnetic, 39 mm in diameter and it weighs 27 grams.. what do you think?

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 Posted 01/10/2023  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tissue test?
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 Posted 01/10/2023  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Year 9 fat man dollar details looks pretty good to me, should weight 26.4 g if your scale doesn't provide at least 0.01 gram.

The rim is larger than normal which bother me somewhat, and silver color seems off, need better white balance from these pictures.
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 Posted 01/10/2023  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Caddis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the feedback. It passed the tissue test. Unfortunately, my scale is pretty limited and my photography sucks. I will try to get accurate of a more detailed scale.
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 Posted 01/10/2023  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like the idea of you upgrading your scale. It would be nice to measure the specific gravity of this one.
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 Posted 01/11/2023  03:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Where did you get it?
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 Posted 01/11/2023  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Caddis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Family collection that I'm going through.
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 Posted 01/11/2023  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Look for "Chinese Republic" coins. Possibly "Kwangtung" dynasty.
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 Posted 01/13/2023  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Family collection that I'm going through.

That's a good sign!
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 Posted 01/13/2023  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JTCC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Possibly "Kwangtung" dynasty."

Kwangtung is a region in China, not a dynasty.
This coin is post dynasty China, obverse symbols indicates that it was minted in republic year 9 (1922).
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Kwangtung is a region in China, not a dynasty.


Thank you for the correction. You are so right! :-)
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 Posted 01/31/2023  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andi10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello!
General Yuan Shi Kaļ (second president of the Chinese Republic,settled in 1912) silver 1 yuan coin (''Fat Man'' dollar) looks genuine to me.
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 Posted 02/15/2023  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wizened to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That coin seems off to me, at least on the fatman side. The hair looks wrong, as does the mustache.
I checked ebay to find a slabbed MS 64 fatman sold with many bids, and the hair and mustache are different.
This coin is heavily counterfeited.
If real, it would be a very high grade coin to have so little wear. Send it off for grading, and if real it would be worth well over $1,000 I think. But do specific gravity and precise weight tests first, as if it is fake you might determine that without cost.
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I agree that the hair looks kind of wonky.
I'd also check on the thickness to make sure it's accurate.
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For wizened!
Hello! 1000$? This is the commonest silver coin of the early Chinese republic! True that heavily counterfeited but if genuine it is not worth more than 100$, in XF condition! (200usd if MS60)
This is what you ment,NO?! And you have put another 0 by error!
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 Posted 02/15/2023  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Caddis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the feedback. I did send the pics to dragon dollar and this was the reply.

Hello,

You have a genuine 1920 Yuan Shih Kai dollar in AU condition, lightly cleaned. It should be worth about $150 USD.

Kind regards,
Raphael Prevost
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