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Bedrock of the Community
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Fingers crossed!  to the CCF! |
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Found on a very old farm last sweep of field one before moving off to field two lucky indeed found in uk south wales.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Wow, I suppose we'll never know how this ended up in South Wales. Thanks for the update!  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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im going to keep till after new year then get it slabbed and sold.
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Pillar of the Community
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I have no idea how to grade these but a XF Details - Environmental Damage sold for almost $4k in August. Salmon 1-A, which I think yours is. Yours seems at least as good, although it looks cleaned to me. (Did you?)
This kind of thing would get a news article, something like Coin Week, especially since it was found in South Wales. NGC or PCGS would likely do a press release about it, definitely worth getting authenticated and graded. Did you take any pictures on site?
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12/14/2022 12:37 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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really? you dug this? that ones hard to believe but if you did thats an amazing find. there are so many variations of this I have no idea which one this is. maybe someone here can narrow it down.
i dont know anything about these but i'd say mid-High VF 30 or 35 details (cleaned) and would be worth authenticating and grading
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i washed the mud of it with water after digging it up thats all the cleaning its had
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Pillar of the Community
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Whoa, what a find. Congrats! VF to XF sounds right to me.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I think the cleaning question arises because of apparent hairlines in the obverse center field.
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Wow if the story is true amazing.  Too bad on the harsh cleaning, as this coin would have benefited greatly from an electrolysis bath and long conservation soak in a non abrasive cleaning solution. I figure the cleaning cost around 30-40% of the value alone on it. Not saying the finder did the harsh cleaning as just running water on it wouldn't do that to the surfaces it shows signs of being scrubbed previously, maybe an old cleaning, but it is what it is now, no going back. I'm basing off the still non scuffed areas protected in the the denomination "XII" 12 shillings area compared to the rest of the field up to the legend. Still it's in great shape for a coin of the 1600's and being in the ground, little to no corrosion is wonderful. Found in the UK? even a better story. I can't say for sure 100% - but it does appear to match up to the Salmon 1-A as kbbpll mentioned (Noe 1, 1.1, 1.5 & Crosby 9-H). An R-3 example with some clipping issues beyond the cleaning. Id also put it in the VF+ grade maybe reaching EF with details possibly for the surface hairlines, it can be hit or miss on the details grade on these coins that are surviving after 300+ years. By all means get it certified if possible. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Is this the same coin we are discussing in the US Colonials/Classic subform? Or did you somehow find two?
It's best to keep the discussion in one thread.
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It's best to keep the discussion in one thread. Agreed. Topics merged.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Westcoin: believe it or not, but circ Massachusetts silver is one of the easiest series to restore and retone if need be
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fwiw: I had an old coin book printed in London in 1653, that mentions a "curious silver disk, with an NE monogram on one side, and XII on the other..." and the author supposed it was a Norwich(e) issue, but didn't know for sure... Boston and Beverly MA., etc. were busy ports-of-call then, so it's no surprise that some of the "curious money" would make its way over to Europe
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