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A CCF Brain Teaser-What Year Prior To 1964 Would Have The Most Coins In A Mint Set?

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Reading CarrsCoins's 1816 Mint Set thread got me thinking.

How about something to keep you all occupied for a little while over the holidays?

If we don't include die varieties (e.g. Newcomb numbers for Large Cents), but do include major subtypes (e.g. 1873 Seated coinage with and without arrows, 1886 Type 1/Type 2 Indian Head cents), what year prior to 1964 would have the MOST number of coins in a complete date and mintmark set for that year?

Copper, silver, and gold are all fair game, but not proof coins - business strikes only.
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I would say 1857, that has large and small cents, Half Cent, Half Dime all the way to gold coins.

I didn't google so this is just a guess based on coins I know where in circulation.

The other date was 1883, but honestly not certain on either.
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I haven't figured it out myself, yet. I am thinking 1878 might be a good candidate to start with, though.
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What the heck, I'll say 1873.
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Would all mint marks be included in the set?
Commemorative Halves be included as well?
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Yes, all mint marks, but no commemorative coins.
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In the modern era, 2009 takes the prize with 36 different coins. Not including the S mint we have
4 Life of Lincoln (PD)
6 DC and Territories Quarters (PD)
4 Presidential dollars (PD)
4 circulating coinage (5, 10, 50, Sacagawea dollar)

My first guess of 1857 had 35 coins
Half Cent
Large Cent
Flying Eagle cent
3 cent silver
Half Dime
Dime (P/O)
Quarter (P/O/S)
Half Dollar (P/O/S)
Silver Dollar
Gold Dollar (P/C/D/S)
Quarter Eagle (P/C/D/S)
$3 Gold (P/S)
$5 Gold (P/C/D/O/S)
$10 Gold (P/O/S)
$20 Gold (P/O/S)
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1883 had 23 coins
Small Cent
Shield nickel
Liberty Head Nickel (No Cents/Cents)
Dime
Quarter
Half Dollar
Morgan (P/CC/O/S) (the trade was just a Proof so not counted)
$1 Gold
$2.5 Gold
$3 Gold
$5 Gold (P/CC/S)
$10 Gold (P/CC/O/S)
$20 Gold (CC/S) P was proof only

So far 1857 is the one to beat pre 1964.
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"Major subtype" perhaps is subjective. 1901 comes to mind. Nickel Reverse Type 1 and 2, Dime Reverse Type 2 and 3, Half Dollar Reverse Type 1 and 2, plus Cent, Quarter, Dollar, plus Gold quarter/half/eagle/double eagle. The half dollar reverse types are very minor though and only published in the last year. But with the three mints that's 25 coins. (I think).

1900 saw three Quarter obverses and two reverses, but you can cover them with 3 coins per mint. Known combinations of obv/rev types would be 15 coins just for Quarters across the mints though. The third Quarter obverse is also pretty minor and only published in the last couple years.

1879 might be a more "normal" contender with all 7 gold denominations. Interesting question.
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cool thread. ill have to think about this one for a bit.
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Let's say major subtype = listed in the Red Book. That should narrow it down a bit.
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"Major subtype" perhaps is subjective. 1901 comes to mind. Nickel Reverse Type 1 and 2, Dime Reverse Type 2 and 3, Half Dollar Reverse Type 1 and 2, plus Cent, Quarter, Dollar, plus Gold quarter/half/eagle/double eagle. The half dollar reverse types are very minor though and only published in the last year. But with the three mints that's 25 coins. (I think).

1900 saw three Quarter obverses and two reverses, but you can cover them with 3 coins per mint. Known combinations of obv/rev types would be 15 coins just for Quarters across the mints though. The third Quarter obverse is also pretty minor and only published in the last couple years.


None of these are in the Red Book, so I would not consider these "major"
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Another date I checked was 1867 as that includes the 2 cent and 3 cent nickel, but 1867 has only 23 coins. 1857 is still winning.
Cent
2 cents
3 Cent Silver
3 Cent Nickel
5 cent nickel (rays/no rays)
10 cents (P/S)
25 cents (P/S)
50 cents (P/S)
1 dollar silver
1 dollar gold
$2.5 gold (P/S)
$3 gold
$5 gold (P/S)
$10 gold (P/S)
$20 gold (P/S)
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This has gone way over my head!

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I'm with the Frog - it's an interesting topic but over my head. I look forward to reading the eventual consensus answer.
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I think I've heard somewhere that 1883 had a lot of coins, but that must have been a lot of types. And it looks like even in types 1857 has it beat.
(I might have been thinking of 1873, come to think of it. But even that doesn't look like it would match 1857, and it includes a bunch of proof-only options.)

@hfjacinto - your listing for 1883 is missing the 3 cent nickel, which is said to have circulation strikes that year, though with less of them than the proof strikes I can see where you could miss that!


Interesting suggestion: 1935 and/or 1936. There was a lot of different commemorative halves struck in those two years, and 1935 also saw the tail end of the Peace dollars.

By the looks of it, 1936 probably had a little more in total, but it's going to be close. Of course it's not clear if commemorative halves clarify for the OP in the first place...
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