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@ sirguardian Do not confound ragged clip with others.
PS: sirguardian I think so you put a good point. Maybe Mike can wrote about the different RAGGED clips varieties.
We have ragged clips from:
1. side of the roll
2. end of the roll
3. some times from the tilted blank cut.
the forum could persuade him to wrote about.
Edited by silviosi
12/29/2022 6:33 pm
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Do the marks on the edge go all the way around the coin? To me it resembles shearing marks from the blanking process. Thanks, Doug.
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@ Halo1st, I know the coin. It is all around. You see a very good point here to be look for many who come see (mean analyze all the points and do not go just by feelings). No, I state it is collar worn and it is and was confirmed also. It is not easy to see from what you see from photos, but in hand you can determine this. this coin was expose for education purpose and educational analysis education.
Glad to see you push up this important point.
Edited by silviosi
12/29/2022 5:38 pm
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Thanks for all your input...Wanted to add that the reeded edge goes all the way around except for the clip.. I'm thinking having about having the one cent coin graded so it will be encapsulated. I've never used a TPG and don't even know how to start. Can you forward info? Again, thanks for your help. , |
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ANACS is the better for this.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'm not sold on this being a mint clip. To me it looks like intentional damage. Grinding would account for the edging. Just my opinion.  . |
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United States
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Iv got 1955 with same edge   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Seems like the collar die deteriorated along with the other dies. These are all 1955 poor man's doubled dies where this collar issue is happening   |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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If it were a collar issue, the affected areas would be raised higher than the edge of the coin.
It it were damage, the marks would be below the normal surface of the edge of collar formation.
Can't tell which it is from the images provided.
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Pillar of the Community
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The lines are raised above the edge
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Which still doesn't prove that they were done post strike. Metal moved will still rise above to the new location. If the examples you have have mintmarks on them, if there all had the mintmarks in the same location, they could have came from the same die pairs. If the mintmarks are in different locations, then they are not from the same die pair, and thus were altered post strike. Also they would all have to rotated in the same location if they were a strike/collar issue. So if they are not exactly the same and in different areas of the struck coin, then they are not a collar issue. (bust a post strike issue) But if they are all exactly the same, then they could be a collar issue. The strike enlarges the planchet to fit into the collar. Expanding the planchet. Thus if it was a collar issue, the locations of these marks would be the same strike to strike. If not, then they are just damage post strike.
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Very interesting!  |
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I see Blakesely on the reverse north of Pluribus and it looks like it's on the obverse under Lincoln's shoulder, although that photo is darker in that spot so it's harder to tell. The rims and fields on both sides taper down into the cut, which is another sign it's genuine. As for the edge, Stoneman pointed out already those are ejection lines from a worn or damaged collar. https://www.error-ref.com/?s=collar+damage |
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I was thinking the same thing. Pretty sure the ones I have will match up because they came from the same batch of rolls. Maybe not but when I get to it I'll check the mm locations and die markers. The ones I have came from the federal reserve and should be uncirculated. I'm not sure how many die pairings would have this same anomaly seeing that they ran most of the dies to the end of their usefulness. I'm thinking more than one die pairing though. I don't have the coins with me but I'll get to it one day. I should have rotated them in the same orientation and checked for similarities but at the time I assumed they were all from the dies
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Just finding time to review the comments and post about my 1955 one cent coin. The photos from Kygu4545 and RW1010 appear to be coins from the same "batch" as mine. However, I think the reeded edging is more pronounced on my coin. The reeded edge goes partially into the clip, but not entirely. I find it very interesting that there are other coins with the same edge in the community considering some of the posted left concerning the authenticity of the coin. Once again, thanks to all who have posted comments and opinions..Jim
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