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ID | UK Penny/ Royal Sons Of Scotland Badge

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 Posted 03/04/2009  12:04 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add angelic to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am hoping that someone out there might be able to help me identify a coin I have. The coin is British and, I believe a one pence piece that has been pressed with the Royal Sons of Scotland insignia. I have tried researching the origins of this pressed coin on the internet and have had no success. Maybe someone here knows a bit more about it?

Back of coin:
ID-|-UK-Penny/-Royal-Sons-Of-Scotland-Badge

Front of coin:
ID-|-UK-Penny/-Royal-Sons-Of-Scotland-Badge

Thanks in advance and my apologies if the pictures are too large!
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 Posted 03/04/2009  12:07 am  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a very intricate "Love Token" I'm assuming the coin is much thinner then normal. The designs are more then likely etched onto the reverse of the coin and the obverse was soldered to some kind of fastener or pin
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 Posted 03/04/2009  12:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angelic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your quick reply! The coin is actually the same thickness as a regular one pence piece. I will have to do some googling on "Love Tokens" as that's something I never considered. Thanks again!
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 Posted 03/04/2009  01:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just to point out a couple of things:

Like many love tokens, it's been hand-engraved. But given the mount mark, I think it's original purpose was as a badge, rather than a love token.

You say it's a British penny - but do you realise that British pennies of the time of George V were quite large? What's the diameter? Here are the sizes of British coppers of the period:

Farthing (¼ penny): 20mm
Halfpenny: 25½mm or 1 inch
Penny: 31mm
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 Posted 03/04/2009  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angelic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Sap, I would not be surprised if it once was worn as a badge as the engraving is to do with the Royal Scots. I guess the fact that's it was hand-engraved is likely why I have not been able to find any information on the internet about it's origins. It' the exact same size as a George V pence. I have quite a few of them in my collection though the most are not in the best condition. Here's a pic of the coin in question beside a 1902 penny (the pics are scanned as my camera is not the best for taking detailed pics). Thanks for your input!

ID-|-UK-Penny/-Royal-Sons-Of-Scotland-Badge
ID-|-UK-Penny/-Royal-Sons-Of-Scotland-Badge
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 Posted 03/05/2009  07:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add valutarick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Royal Scots according to my knowledge is the oldest BRITiSH Regiment since 1633, so that makes it a military item instead of a love token.

www.theroyalscots.co.uk
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 Posted 03/05/2009  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angelic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you valutarick. I tried to research it via websites about the Royal Scots when I first received the coin and found nothing. I had assumed that the coin was pressed and not hand-engraved and thought that I might be able to find out more information about it's origins.
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Perhaps this is an early type of challenge coin in a hand-engraved style. Here is an [eBayItem]370149228579[/eBayItem] for a modern one.
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 Posted 03/06/2009  12:26 am  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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so that makes it a military item instead of a love token.

Very possible. I was using the term "love token" very loosely to define the process of etching out an existing coin to make a pattern, design, or initials. They are more commonly used for initials for "loved ones" though
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Thanks for the link biokemist6, that makes a lot of sense and it seems likely that is what my coin is. I also have some Mason coins that I assume are challenge coins?

ID-|-UK-Penny/-Royal-Sons-Of-Scotland-Badge
ID-|-UK-Penny/-Royal-Sons-Of-Scotland-Badge

ID-|-UK-Penny/-Royal-Sons-Of-Scotland-Badge
ID-|-UK-Penny/-Royal-Sons-Of-Scotland-Badge
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