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1977 D Washington Quarter NGC MS-63 Improperly Annealed

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 Posted 01/06/2023  10:24 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Willburton to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This is one of my favorite kind of errors. It can occur on several denominations. Thanks for looking!
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 Posted 01/06/2023  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a dime, somewhere I think that has the same error. Nice coin my friend!
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 Posted 01/06/2023  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oddguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin to have and in great shape.
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 Posted 01/07/2023  02:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NGC are confident to state that coin is improperly annealed.

I must admit:-
I cannot tell the difference between improper annealed, and a coin that has been messed with, to be deliberately blackened to red hot.

My question:-
How do you tell the difference?
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 Posted 01/07/2023  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Willburton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks folks and sel. I'm not sure how they tell on all of these coins. The reverse on this one is lustrous like an uncirculated Lincoln.
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 Posted 01/07/2023  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't really understand how they distinguish this from toning.
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I don't have a clue on these but very cool, Will!
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Well you know what ? I'm going against NGC's attribution that this coin is improperly annealed . Look at the obverse , at least 60% of bust is light colored , and what's with those two dark spots one which is heavy on L &Y on LIBERTY . Like a Black Beauty Nickel , this coin should be all dark and not blotchy for being improperly annealed .
I don't know guys , this is just my analyzed opinion . What say you ?
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Perhaps NGC should tell us, why it was improperly annealed.
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 Posted 01/09/2023  05:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting discussion. Waiting on some conclusions.
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I'm with T-BOP. Every time one of these comes up, we have the same answers. Yes, no, environmental. Heat and chemicals, whether in the environment or man-made can turn the metal colors. I'm not a metallurgist, so I don't know. I like some toned coins and some not so much. Collect what you like.




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First time I see this post. 1977D clad NI-Cu alloy and has this color on annealing? Maybe NGC is right, but will be a big exception of Calorimetry of metals and alloys. I agree with T-BOP and CUJ.
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