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My kids each have an 1881 S Morgan dollar MS 64 holdered by NGC. This morning my daighter pointed out that hers had two S's on the label. The coin itself is not special with two S's or anything. So my question is, how often does NGC make typos on their labels? Any Market for slab typos, just curious.
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"S$1" stands for "silver dollar." It's caused confusion more than once. Glad your little one is observant - sounds like a numismatist in the making!
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Interesting, of the 5 bought, it is the only one that has that. Thanks for the information, she will be excited to learn that once she gets home from school.
Still so much to learn, especially about graded slabs in general, my collections is 99.9% raw coins. Thank you for the kind explanation. If anyone else wants to read more into it, I did just find this article once I knew what to look up.
https://news.coinupdate.com/confusi...designation/
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That holder says s s$1 not s$1 is it possible that it's an RPM
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The coin is an 1881 S, so thats where the first S comes from.
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For what it is worth, my two NGC graded 40% silver Ikes spell out SILVER on the labels...

1971 S SILVER $1
1972 S SILVER $1
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NGC dropped the S$1 at some point. I don't know how many listings I've seen on ebay where the seller thought they had a San Francisco minted dollar based on the silver dollar notation.

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There are also 1881 O S$1 and 1881 CC S$1. Then 1881 G$1 for the gold dollars, and 1881 T$1 for Trade dollars. Etc for other years. This doesn't make sense to me, because none of the branch mints made gold dollars during those years. I can understand plain 1881 designating S$ and G$, so maybe they were trying to be consistent? Despite the fact that you can plainly see that one 1881 is a silver Morgan and another one is gold or a Trade dollar. PCGS also uses G$1 and T$1; not sure if they ever used S$1. I wonder if NGC has explained why they did it one way and then another.
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someone posted a picture of an NCGX slab yesterday. looks like they are back to using that abbreviation.

seems inconsistent. they dont use a c for copper or a g for gold. this coin only comes in one metal. theres plenty of space for (s)ilver if they had wanted to spell it out. it would be interesting to know why they chose to do that.
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someone posted a picture of an NCGX slab yesterday. looks like they are back to using that abbreviation.
For reference:

http://goccf.com/t/435079&whichpage=3#3775310
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they dont use a c for copper or a g for gold.
They do use G$1 for gold.
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oh.. I guess I havent handled a $1 gold in a while. thanks for correcting me kbbpll!
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I just ran into this one with Silver spelled out, yet another variation on the NGC theme. (Gosh why is this showing up so huge? It's only 100 kb)

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I just ran into this one with Silver spelled out
Just like the two NGC Ikes I have.

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Gosh why is this showing up so huge? It's only 100 kb
A good reminder that File Size <> Image Size. You do not have to shrink the image to get the file under 300kb limit. Compression (data reduction) works.
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The original is 634kb, so I used the image optimizer, save, use the slider until it's 25% (~100kb in this case), then upload. What's the secret?
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What you did was correct because it decreased the file size, not the image size. There is no need to decrease the image size. The forum will scale it to your window size and you can click on it to see the larger image. That is a feature, not a bug.
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