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1892 S Morgan Dollar . Grading Opinions

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 Posted 01/19/2023  12:16 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Baracoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hello, which grade do you think? vf Or xf and Is it worth grading? thx in advance

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 Posted 01/19/2023  01:54 am  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have it in the mid VF range. It could just be your photos but the coin looks to have been cleaned. Again, could be your photos or lighting.
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 Posted 01/19/2023  03:17 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Appears genuine and cleaned. I agree it has VF+ detail. I'd guesstimate this piece is worth $100 as-is and not worth grading.
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 Posted 01/19/2023  07:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kennedy759 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
please school me on why you think its been cleaaned
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 Posted 01/19/2023  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Believe7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dull and missing patina.
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VF Details Polished/Cleaned

The coin is not showing hairlines in the photo, but on reverse the upper half has a shinny look that happens when a coin has a high speed polish. If you place the coin under light and tilt back and forth, you should see fine hairlines that move in direction with light reflection.



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 Posted 01/19/2023  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ericgreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Slider23 said it well.
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the lighting in the photos is causing some glare enough to not be able to discern surface originality. the field surrounding PLURIBUS has a dull yellow tone. one marker for a cleaning. another marker is the dirt around the stars from K4-K8 appears to have been cleaned or wiped. it also has the same look on the reverse surrounding ONE DOLLAR.

VF30 Details (cleaned)

a sale of a VF30 details coin graded by ANACS sold for $250 a year ago. I dont think that was something you can point at for a comp. A PCGS VF30 straight just sold for $193. I think BH1964 is pretty close in his value of $100. keep in mind to slab a single coin at PCGS would cost about that amount after you purchase a subscription, pay the grading fee and shipping and insurance.

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I'll say VF details (cleaned).
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Please school me on why you think its been cleaned.


It's a 130 year old piece of circulated silver alloy. It is shiny, a sign of polishing or heavy wiping with a cloth, but does not show hairlines which is good. It does not appear harshly cleaned. Also note small amounts of dirt/patina in protected areas but not on larger, open surface areas.

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but on reverse the upper half has a shinny look that happens when a coin has a high speed polish

This is incorrect. The upper halves of the coin are being directly reflected by the overhead lighting. Those sections are no more polished than the rest of the coin.
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It does not appear harshly cleaned


just because its not harshly cleaned doesn't mean it wasnt cleaned. dipping a coin does not result in any discernable hairlines and even wiping the coin may not either

the lighting/glare in these photos is not helping. I think I explained the markers as to why I think the coin was cleaned
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VF 30 details , old cleaning .
Would likely bring 100 to 125 .
And likely very quickly at that price .
Still quite a decent piece for
someone who wishes to put
an economy set together .
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VF-30 details, cleaned.
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