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1858/7 "Strong" Flying Eagle Cent- Overdate Snow-1 FS-301 Cherry-Pick

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Haven't posted in a long while due to just being busy these last few months, but boy am I returning with a big (and rare) one.

Probably my best cherry-pick to date, I paid $67 shipped for this coin. It looks, in my eye, an easy VF-30 at any standard and I think a VF-35 fits this coin nicely. An EF-40 may not even be out of the realm of possibility.

1858/7's always come weakly struck, especially on the obverse and reverse's right side. Reverse marker is present as well and the overdate and errant 1 in the field are strongly prominent, which is not always the case with this variety. This appears to be a well struck early die state.

This will definitely be off to PCGS at some point, hopefully very soon and in which case this thread will be updated. Can't see this any lower than VF-30 and I'll be guessing on a 35 but we will see!

This is my second cherry-picked example of this variety, the first one posted here and ended up a VG-10 with PCGS:

http://goccf.com/t/397316

Thank you all for taking a look, hope all is well.

-CH27

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What's going on with the '5'?
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DING DING DING!
Super pick-up!
You can just make out the disconnected wing tip...and the reverse die marker is the cherry on top!
Looking fwd to your follow-up!
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The markers are all there and sharp. Congrats!
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Very nice pick up !
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Excellent pick. Congrats.
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Thanks all! Glad to add another to the collection. Now just to get it in a slab.

What about the 5 did you want to know about mdpmedia?

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This is what I was referring to.
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I'm guessing some circ/wear flattening?
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yes, I was aware of that wear to a certain extent. However, my concern is centered on the issue of the originality of the '5'.
I would like to know if there are different varieties of shapes of the date's digits?

Firstly, the solid red lines are the exact same length. If numeric varieties are non-existent, how does one explain flattening wear causing the thickness of the upper serif to increase so much compared top the PCGS example? The upper part of the op's 5 just does not look right: shaped like a larger tulip flower with a distinct outline.





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Also the red dashed lines marked A, B and C point to shapes apparently located underneath the primary devices of the digits.

These shapes are most likely immune to wear and are non-existent on the PCGS sample. What are these?


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