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 Posted 01/24/2023  12:58 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add AllSeasons to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I recently came into these Chinese silver dollars. Based on my research, I believe they're from early twentieth century China. What can you tell me about them? Also, how much are these worth? Any key dates? I'm not an expert on grading, but they seem to be in decent shape. Would you say XF maybe?
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 Posted 01/24/2023  01:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numister to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks VF cleaned to me.

First one is common 1 yuan 1914, second one is scarcer 1 Yuan 1933. Both worth about 300?
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01/24/2023 01:23 am
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 Posted 01/24/2023  02:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AllSeasons to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you! I personally never cleaned these, but they may have been cleaned by the previous owner(s). I have two more of these, but they exceeded the image size limit. Let's see if this will work.

Do these look cleaned, as well? Also around $300 each, I guess?

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 Posted 01/24/2023  02:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numister to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks VF cleaned too.

Both together worth about 300 too imo. So all 4 coins worth total about 600. Caveat: Not sure how easy it is to flip these coins raw in your area though.
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 Posted 01/24/2023  02:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AllSeasons to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Got it, thank you. I misunderstood your earlier post about the $300, but that did get me excited, though! Still, $600 for all 4 is not bad at all.

I'm most likely going to keep these and add them to my collection. I doubt anyone in my area would know too much about these, save maybe a couple LCS's. If I ever sold these, it would likely be on ebay or something, but most likely will just keep them.

One last question, would it be worth it at all to send these in to PCGS/NGC to get graded? Since they're likely cleaned, I wouldn't expect to receive a grade, per se, but maybe it may be worth it to at least authenticate it to remove any doubt? All 4 coins would cost $23 * 4 = $92, so I don't know if financially that would be worth it?
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 Posted 01/24/2023  05:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add I6609 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are right at the boarder line of grade or not grade . Personally I would say no if you try to sell at a later date and can't get what you're asking for them . Then maybe consider getting them graded . Just my opinion others may see it differently .
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It may help quite a bit if you elaborate on how you came into these.

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I am similarly cautious as @nss. The so-called fat man dollars have been extensively faked. Can you please confirm that a magnet is not attracted to these? Thx.
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I would personally get these all graded due to the large number of fakes out there as mentioned above. Main reason is everybody will know then whether or not they are genuine, and can help greatly with future sales, etc.
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 Posted 01/24/2023  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are the more common side of Chinese silver crowns. Price of 100 - 150 each is reasonable. I don't see any scarce varieties.


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 Posted 01/24/2023  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AllSeasons to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for all the replies so far. Just to answer a couple of questions, these are not magnetic. Also, they all weigh between 26.6 grams and 26.7 grams. These are from an old estate from the 1940's, I believe.

Regardless, I'm seriously considering getting these graded/authenticated, even if just to have peace of mind.
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 Posted 01/25/2023  02:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numister to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Visually in my opinion they look right but who knows what the graders might think.

And I believe the cost of grading these type of China coins have gone up tremendously.
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 Posted 01/31/2023  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andi10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello,all of you!
I am so sorry for some of the previous replies/opinions but... no way to grade these coins as XF! The scarcer ''junk''(boat) dollar,may be a max.VF35 and the common ''fat man'' dollar a max.VF20 or F15.
Also,values of 300$?!? Perhaps only for the ''junk'' dollar if it was in AU or even MS (uncirculated) condition.The ''fat man'' cannot reach this amount even in MS!
In the condition they are,these coins' prices are excesive even at 100-150$...
I may say more realistic prices of 60-75usd. for the ''fat man'' and 100-125usd for the ''junk''dollar.
Here are KM ''World Coins'' values,which are less than the above I gave you.

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Looks like they've been harshly cleaned. These coins sell for a big premium in California. I've bought wiped ones in the past for a minimum of 80 dollars at the LCS, but now they're selling for several times that amount. If the provenance is 1940s old collection they should be good. Main drawback is the hairlines, but it seems to me like people are willing to buy these in any condition for relatively high prices.
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 Posted 02/06/2023  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Krause prices are too undervalued for Chinese coins.

If I can buy them at those prices, I'll be making a fortune...
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 Posted 02/08/2023  12:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AllSeasons to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for all the replies. Just another quick question: Since the forum thinks these are cleaned, would it make sense to send these to NCS to get properly restored, and then have them graded by NGC?

For those who may not be familiar, NCS (Numismatic Conservation Services) is owned by NGC. They restore coins, which are then passed along to NGC for grading, so that they don't come back as cleaned.

Cheers!
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