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Altered (To Be A) 1922 No-D Lincoln Cent

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There are unscrupulous people out there.

If you have purchased a 1922 no-D Lincoln Cent in the last few years from ebay or Etsy, it is suggested you have it authenticated by a reputable grading service, or at least compare your coin to
http://www.lincolncentresource.com/...rieties.html

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Zowie, good catch!
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Yikes!

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it is suggested you have it authenticated by a reputable grading service
The 1922 "plain" hole is one of three left to fill in my core Dansco albums along with 1916-D and 1909-S VDB.

I am only looking at certified examples of those coins. Now that I have cracked a few slabs to fill other holes, I have no desire to buy these three raw.
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Same scratch between the R and U in TRUST too.

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And now a different color!
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Are you suggesting that the first coin was altered to remove the MM or perhaps a transfer die was used to eliminate the MM? The second coin does look softly struck compared to the first coin and the MM area if tooled, isn't noticeable to my eyes. I would assume that the second coin was produced from a transfer die using the first one as the host coin. Indeed a good observation by nss-52.
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The mint mark was removed, and the coin re-toned. I do not know how it was done.

If they wanted to use a die transfer method, why not just get a genuine 1922 no-D and use that as the host?

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8 or 10 hours in a rock tumbler with some sand might do this.
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Interesting. In your first example, the grunge inside IGWT and the date is gone—it hardly looks like the same coin despite the identical markings. Does the reverse also have identical bag marks?

And were the two 1922 no D examples sold by the same seller?
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Thank you, nss-52, for this informative post and thread. 1922 no D is the only empty spot in my Lincoln album for these very reasons.
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Personally, I would only acquire one of these in a TPG slab - even if I intended to crack it out for an album.
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They are getting really good at this.
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You wouldn't be fooled if you knew the well-established varieties, but this is convincing indeed.
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You wouldn't be fooled if you knew the well-established varieties
The forger would be out of business if the buyers did their research before buying.
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Thank you nss-52. They are good and quick.
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