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1909 French Indo-China Piastre. Probably A Contemporary Fake Or Was It A Fraud From The Mint?

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1909-French-Indo-China-Piastre.-Probably-A-Contemporary-Fake-Or-Was-It-A-Fraud-From-The-Mint?
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My data and observations:

Coin B: 27.41gr, 39.0mm(measured by caliper),coin alignment, base metal, dentiles counted 146(Obv.) 146(Rev.)

Coin A: 26.98, 39.0mm(measured by caliper), coin alignment, Ag mainly, dentiles counted 146 (Obv.) 146(Rev.)

Overlapping observations of both coins, they are perfectly matched at any positions and every details. Edges of both coins were done well and of same type.

My utmost conclusion is both coins were came from the same die. Is coin B a test coin from the original die and mint? Coin A is problem-free, it is real and original.

Here are more comparison pictures. Welcome any comments on this post.


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02/11/2023 10:51 pm
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If coin A is real how do you explain the raised dots in the field caused by a Transfer Die casting process? JPL
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Hi JPL, can you highlight the dots in the pictures?
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On the obverse on the crown points of K-9/10 look out 1-2" out toward the rim directional = the raised metal dots. Several of many. JPL
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JPL, feel odd you imply coin A is fake, no words. Coin A is a well circulated specimen in my humble opinion.
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Sometimes photos are deceiving - however this has that Chinese look to it along with raised metal dots in the field.
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Coin B is believed of harder nature (probably in Cu, Ni texture), the details on the strike is less clear-cut than the softer Ag-Cu official coin (A).

Anyone possess this 1909 Piastre, no matter you think what it is,you can post here for comparison.

@JPL, you could cerncern is likely to be tiny hit/digs, I think they are not "raised metal dots".
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