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Hey folks What would you grade this one? Thanks!    You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
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f15
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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I'll say F-15, choice for grade.
Edited by Coinfrog
02/18/2023 09:23 am
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I'd be at F12. TPG might call it F15 with the Key Date Bump (I've seen less-sharp coins in straight grade VF25 holders.) This looks like Snow S-2 (wide, evenly spaced date) but the photos don't let me see the headband closely enough to look for the die chip. The weakness of the rim at UNITED STATES is at odds with the sharpness of the remainder of the obverse. Usually by the time the fields are worn into the rims like that, the coin is AG-G at best; so this may be a slightly vertically misaligned obverse die strike, or late state Die Deterioration, or something else along those lines. Would like to see a bit more of the marks under E in CENT, between the last 7 and last A in AMERICA, and above the 8. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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looks like there's enough for F15
as a side note and just my thoughts on it. coin looks like it was treated with verdicare. no problem as it would grade straight but for an F coin there should be signs of dirt/grime or something in somewhere and if you look close at the recessed areas like in between the feathers and around the inside of the wreath near the bow you will note that something was there are cleaned off. I had a couple copper coins slabbed after verdicare and they came back straight. the coin is just too clean to not be.
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F-15 with great eye appeal.
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If it's not original surfaces, old cleaning or whatnot, I think it would straight grade; being an 1877 it gets a lot more leeway from the TPG's; unless the marks I noted above are worse than they appear. It does seem to be lighter than I would expect, but I can tell that the exposure is long or the light source is quite bright, which may be making the coin look lighter than it really is in hand. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Edited by paralyse
02/18/2023 5:56 pm
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I am at F-15 straight grade as well, and have seen coins in VF-20 holders look worse. The light source is making it look brighter, in hand she's a beautiful chocolate brown color. Yeah, someone prior to my ownership did remove some dirt as is noticed mostly on the reverse. This is my first coin to be up for sale shortly on our forum. She is a Choice F-15 and would CaC all day long imho. As of right now, their are 7 - F15 Indians on ebay, I would choose this one over every single one. You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
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02/18/2023 5:52 pm
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In any case, that is a very nice '77! You can still read LIBERTY on the headband and that's good to see. Good luck with your sale.
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