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Request Grading Opinion On 1859 And 1863 Indian Head Cents

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 Posted 11/29/2022  10:59 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add divesww to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I would like your opinions on the 1859 and 1863 Indian Head cents I have pictured. Also would appreciate any opinions on whether the scratches on the 1863 would be considered cleaning or if the Rim Fin on the 1859 negatively affects its value. Thanks

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I'd say AU-55 on the 1859, but obverse rim scrapes K2-K4 detract. I wouldn't consider the Rim Fin an issue.

I'd say MS details (obverse wiped or cleaned) on the 1863.
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1859 - obv AU55 rev AU50 net AU53

1863 - I agree with coinfrog
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 Posted 11/30/2022  07:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smat45 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

With both of these guys!
Thanks for sharing!
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Agree with all above.
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with Coinfrog.
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 Posted 11/30/2022  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add drmenard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know much about Indian Heads but something just don't look right to me on the 1863. Looks too boldly struck and the 1 in the date is almost touching the neck. I looked at coinfacts and no dates looked that close. I have seen some nice looking indian heads made in China.
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1859 AU-53 details, rim damage. 1863 AU-58 details, cleaned.
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So I'm curious - on the 1863, all those scratches on the cheek and in the field to the left in obverse and the heavy scratches below "ONE" on reverse don't constitute aggressive cleaning? Looks like a nasty abrasive was used.
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1859 AU50 details, obverse damage (scrapes)

1863 AU58 details, cleaned/polished
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The 63 has been harshly cleaned/polished. Too bad, that was a nice coin they destroyed.
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