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Pillar of the Community
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Hi everyone. I am not sure if this is a thing, but it appears to me that the designer's initials on the reverse of this quarter are doubled. I would love to hear what you all think. Thank you for your time and opinions.    |
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Pillar of the Community
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To me, it does look like separation and notching.
(Unless it's glare getting me again.)
Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The designer's initials on this design are incuse, so I believe this would just be strong Machine Doubling. |
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United States
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It looks doubled - but that said, it is also step like, which is indicative of MD. So, I'll have to agree with Tanman
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Here is another 2 examples below, which has Machine Doubling on other letters, and also note the E is different. This type of doubling occurs when the die strikes a planchet. If the die is not properly seated, it can move slightly or bounce during the moment of striking, creating a flat, shelf-like doubling. This effect will be different on all coins struck, so it is technically not a variety, but rather more of a striking error.  Edited by datadragon
02/23/2023 10:54 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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This looks like a doubled die, but the doubled dies would be seen on the inside area of the designs. I'd keep them safe for now. They might be some new die issue that is not determined yet. When we find out more, then spend them if they are nothing.  Looks like the design is making it look like some devices are doubled, but on the proof coin coin can see it stronger. But the extra 'FC' seen on this coin? Still trying to figure this one out.   Edited by coop
02/24/2023 10:43 am
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United States
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If you want to increase the value I hear you can send it through the dryer 10 times or so. Jk cool coin, I will be interested to hear the result
Cheers!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I thought the designer's initials were raised on this one? I have one of these quarters on my desk right now. All of the lettering and numerals on the reverse (except E PLURIBUS UNUM) are incuse. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I am not 100% sure but I will say Strike Doubling. I saw one similar and first I thinking maybe could be an Doubling but was not. Hard to say for now on this coin. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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... I have one of these quarters on my desk right now. All of the lettering and numerals on the reverse (except E PLURIBUS UNUM) are incuse. Thanks Tanman. The initials being incuse got me. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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United States
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Just so happens I just received a bag from the mint today. Don't know what it is, but I found 12 out of the 100 were like or some form of this. I'm not any good at pictures. As stated above the int are incused on these. The doubling or whatever it is is incused. The 12 run from just the E to part E, both int to part of both, and just the C to part of the C. I'm wondering if it might be a form of ejection doubling. It only effects the 2 int. nowhere on the rest of the coin can I even see Machine Doubling. If it was a die issue, they would all be the same, but they're not. Which leads me to ejection doubling. |
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United States
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Very likely @cujohn to be a form of ejection impact doubling since its happened on recent 2017-p quarters and is capable to make the extra letter shifted a full letter length (1.0 mm) away toward the coin's center and in more than 1 direction which can explain what we are all seeing. On quarters it doesn't come up often - Duplicated incuse peripheral letters appear on the reverse face of the 2017-P Frederick Douglass 25c, the 2017-P George Rogers Clark 25c, and the 2017-P Ellis Island 25c. More than one duplicate set of letters may appear. Within a single coin, the extra letters may be shifted in more than one direction relative to the normal letters. Rotational and medial displacement can be severe. https://www.error-ref.com/ejection-...ct-doubling/ When I saw a number of them including those I posted above I thought similarly because it looked different on all coins struck as mentioned rather then all the same like if the die was doubled. However there is Machine Doubling on the other devices on some of them. I guess Tanman/Wexler or Mike Diamond since he is part of that site will have to call it. Edited by datadragon
02/24/2023 7:49 pm
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