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1972 S Proof DDO-001

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 Posted 02/25/2023  5:06 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add allcoinsaregood to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So I've had this 1972 S Proof for a while, and was looking at it and realized it had a DDO with a clockwise spread on IGWT. Looking on Copper Coins at the 1972 S sure enough they show it as 001 DDO. Don't know how I missed it, but I am glad I looked at it again. Let me know your thoughts and regards!
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You have the coin in hand, I'm not seeing any spread. See what others say.
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I'm not seeing it either, can you post up the attribution from the site you found it on?
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I don't see any apparent doubling.
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Just want to add my observation on something I`m seeing on the first part of the "W" and some in the "E" but not so strong on other devices.
ref...https://doubleddie.com/823839.html, the tone of the coin in a pic is throwing me off a bit...just not sure
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Sorry a correction on that link is doubleddie.com/823839.html

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I am mostly seeing something on liberty.
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The glare needs some taming but the separation in "WE" and "TRUST" appear promising to me.
If you could work on your lighting a bit and post up some improved images, this might settle the issue.
You have consensus @ LIBERTY & WE as promising.
Take some time and improve those images. Lighting can really affect what others see.
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Looks like the normal master hub doubling issue:
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Yes, the proof coins also used were MDD dies as well. They are common, and not a premium for these. 50% of all the cents that year were from MDD dies and the other 50% were normal/doubled dies that year, from all three mints.
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Wow! 50% I have a lot of older proof sets and one year of the 1972, so there is a 50% chance I have a common 50% MDD cent in the set. Thanks for setting that record straight because there was a 50% chance I would have gotten a heart palpitation from being really exited when getting to inspect that years proof set. By the way coop I love your YouTube channel, been going through very slowly on the vids after joining.
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And what exactly is MDD. Please school me. Not a familiar acronym to me.
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Ok turned off all light except enough light to show the surface of the script on the first three pictures. Remember we are dealing with a Proof which is very shiney! The last two overall shots I rapped two cloths front and back and you can see surface scratches of the proof.
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Oh, I get it now, Master die doubling. Is that a common occurrence on this particular year?
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Is MDD Master Die Doublig?, would not all of the coins from this die exhibit the same characteristics? Defects in the master die should appear on every coin struck from it, correct? All the way down to the working die. Is this a common anomoly? Where can I reference this information?
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It looks like some separation to me on some of the devices (date and WE) but the MM location doesn't match.
Yours seems to be much further south.
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