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Help! What Coin Is This Woman Wearing? Senegal, 1910

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Hello all! I found this picture of a Senegalese woman in traditional dress and ornaments that was taken back in 1910. What caught my attention was the charm she is wearing around her neck, which I believe might be a silver coin of some sort. Can anyone here guess what this coin might be? Given the details in the photo, I just can't seem to pinpoint which exact coin she has attached to her necklace. The details on the coin in the picture I think are of a face, but whose face I can't tell. Thanks y'all!
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 Posted 03/05/2023  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cdngmt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
maybe a Napoleon III 20 Franc Silver coin ?
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 Posted 03/05/2023  11:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JulioEC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a 5 lire Italian silver coin depicting Vittorio Emanuele II. I would recognize that beard anywhere!
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It's a 5 lire Italian silver coin depicting Vittorio Emanuele II.

It seemed to me that it was something German. Many German coins have such beards.
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 Posted 03/06/2023  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andi10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi!
Sorry cdngmt, but ALL the 20 francs coins, of Napoleon III or all the others (kings, emperors & republic) are ONLY gold coins,never silver! The silver coins series end with the 5 francs denomination, the biggest).
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 Posted 03/06/2023  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andi10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi to all of you!
Julio, I'm not too sure that it is a Victor Emanuel II coin: yes the beard looks like his but the head overall, less to no!
I would say the same about an hypothetic german coin... For me,for the moment, it is a mystery! However, I shall say that my most chanses go to a 5 francs of Louis Napoleon Bonaparte,year 1852 (the prince-president, not yet NapoleonIII, emperor).
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 Posted 03/06/2023  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It reminds me of the 1866 Mexican peso of Maxamillion
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 Posted 03/06/2023  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That forked beard looks very recognizable, but I can't find a match on Numista...
...wait, no, it could also be a play of light. There goes my matching.

Some of the Vittorio Emanuele issues do indeed have very similar beards, but the placement and especially the bust termination doesn't match. Maximilian of Mexico doesn't quite match either. Louis Napoleon is facing the wrong way (assuming the photo isn't mirrored).

...now that I think of it, can we prove that it's not a gold coin? The original photo is black and white, and I'm not sure if we could tell the difference between silver and gold. Though I guess it's much more likely to be silver because gold usually doesn't get that large.
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 Posted 03/06/2023  3:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JulioEC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps it's Vittorio Emanuele as I said, just after having plastic surgery? Same beard, different face or head shape. I know surgeons who can do that.
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By the way, I don't think it's a gold coin. I read golden objects, including jewelry, are considered to bring bad luck by the peoples of Western Africa. I don't know if someone can confirm this.
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Can we ask her to see the other side?
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Love that head-dress, she herself would make a very nice design for a coin.
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 Posted 03/07/2023  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DrPeper23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Through the power of having no life, I searched Numista at silver German states coins.

My best guess is a 1 Vereinsthaler issued under Bernhard II in the Duchy of Saxe-Meiningen https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces33443.html

Here are some other maybes
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces97467.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces47269.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces20140.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces33260.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces56097.html
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My best guess is a 1 Vereinsthaler issued under Bernhard II in the Duchy of Saxe-Meiningen https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces33443.html


Nice beard but the dude faces the wrong way
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 Posted 03/07/2023  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add newguy22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could it be one of these? An old daler from Denmark?

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https://en.numista.com/catalogue/in...n&e=danemark
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