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Please guess what grade NGC recently gave this 1917D obv Walker..

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 Posted 03/11/2009  07:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Napoleon31ft to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
UMmmm I'm not that good with walkers at all and still new sooo...

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I'm going conservative here, I think - EF45 but wouldn't be surprised if I saw it 5 points higher.
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I think EF-45 also, but it would have to have more line in the skirt to go higher.
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I'm gonna say... AU-50
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With the way these early walkers get graded, an AU50 or 53 grade wouldn't knock me out of my chair.
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With the way these early walkers get graded, an AU50 or 53 grade wouldn't knock me out of my chair


Do you think that the TPGs are to loose with their grading when it comes to early date Walkers?
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That is one sweet old Walker.
The photos aren't detailed enough but on the obverse I can see a slight split between the thumb and forefinger, but the head is soft and the left breast flattened. The sandal looks good but I can't see where the skirtlines on the leg stop.

The reverse looks good also, nice feather definition on the breast and leg

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Do you think that the TPGs are to loose with their grading when it comes to early date Walkers?


Perhaps my comment could have been phrased better. I don't know if "loose" is the right word. The skirt lines aren't as strong in the early walkers...and varies years before the thirties don't tend to be struck as well.

And I've seen some (low to mid grade) key dates that seem to have generous grades. Maybe due to market grading?

I'd appreciate your comments on the matter.

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Grading on early date Walkers has changed over the years sorta like the Buffalo nickle. A fine has turn into a very fine and a very fine to extra fine and so on.

I also think grading has a lot to do with who the submitter is. Some people seem to get extra points and cleaned and problem coins seem to get overlooked and find their way into graded PCGS and NGC slabs.
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Hi Dewayne,
On early Walkers a complete breastplate with "keyhole" is usually good for an EF-40 minimum. Your coin easily makes that level. I see weakness down Liberty's thigh and leg and along the eagle's breast and left leg which are typical areas of strike weakness. I see friction along these areas, in the right obverse field, and in the open area below the eagle's beak. Some luster remains.

I think you have an AU-53 coin here. She's a beauty!
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I thought EF-45 taking into account the weak strike. From the pictures, it looks like there are a lot of hairlines in the fields, but is that just the picture?
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thought EF-45 taking into account the weak strike. From the pictures, it looks like there are a lot of hairlines in the fields, but is that just the picture?



Nope, she has some hairlines from circulation
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Nope, she has some hairlines from circulation


That figured into my grade, as well.
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Thanks!

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That's another nice walker in your collection!
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