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1903-S Morgan Dollar Opinions Please

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I rarely find any key date or semi key date Morgans in Rome, so I was surprised to pick this up today along with a 79 p Morgan and two WLH (34 and 45).

Thoughts would be appreciated... I'll post the 79 later today... It has some decent album toning


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I'll say VG-10.
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I'll concur with VG-10.
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i think the lighting may make the coin look like it was clean but I think she grades straight. looks like a very fine scratch on the chin but other than that nice find.
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@pan... I don't think she was cleaned, but we'll worn.

Here's the 79


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VG-10 on the 1903-S
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the 79...doesn't look good. cleaned possibly polished at one time

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F12 1903 S
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Not liking the authenticity of the 1879.

The 1903-S looks much better and much more original.
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@paralyse what doesn't look right?

It weighs right, exact diameter, pings on the app, and looks right under a loupe.

The fakes I have seen in Rome have failed nearly all of these.
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Both look "antiqued".

Without seeing in hand, would have passed on both.
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@acloco ... Besides "antiqued" what sticks out?

I did every test I normally do ... Weights are 26.63 and 26.58; diameter is exact; they ping under the app and there's no signs of molding or working like the dozens of cast fakes I see in Rome. Under a 10x loupe there's bag marks, circulation signs, dings, etc.

If these are fakes, they're at least silver. But I am reasonable confident they are authentic. Unless, of course, I'm missing something.

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VG10, possibly details, cleaned on the 03-S. Obverse diagonal hairlines across the bust.
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03-S VG-10, 79 VF-35 details, cleaned.
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@Ty and IGE, are you seeing any reason to doubt authenticity?
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Just to elaborate, the 1879 looks off in a variety of ways, especially on the reverse
Wreath, breast, and lettering all look wrong, especially ONE DOLLAR and IGWT

If it's real it's been heavily damaged (polished/cleaned) and retoned over it but the overall appearance of the coin just isn't right.


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