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Wells Fargo & Co's Express Western Division Medal

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I've had this bronze/copper 45mm medal in my stuff for probably 15 years and recently "found" it again. I'm pretty sure I got it at a coin show in Utah in the early 2000's. One side shows a map of the United States with "Ocean to Ocean" across the top and numerous cities names on the map. The other side has "Presented by Jon J Valentine President For Faithful & Loyal Service To The Company During Times of Pressure and Hardship". In larger lettering around the outside is "Wells Fargo & Co's Express Western Division".
Anybody ever seen one or know anything about them? Thx!
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. HUGE Wells Fargo & Co.'s Express Western Division "Ocean to Ocean" bronze medal - "Presented by Jon J. Valentine President For Faithful & Loyal Service to the Company During Times of Pressure & Hardship". Note - Valentine was President of Wells Fargo from 1892-1901 - RARE, OLD PIECE OF BANKING MEMORABILIA

Sale price I'll email you
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03/19/2023 12:47 am
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There are some that were made in all silver given to employees. They are fetching a nice price and only one ever known in gold.
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@west, that is a really nice medal. According to this numisbid entry, these medals date to 1888:

https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=l...995&lot=1815

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Thanks Spence. Really appreciate having this information shared in the open.
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Thanks y'all!

I'm guessing mid 1890's is most likely when it was made following the banking "Panic of 1893".

My late Father always told me "if you see something you like, and you've never seen one before, you better buy it 'cause you may never see another one!" That sure rings true with this one!

I looked at Heritage and ebay "sold" items and nothing showed up. Glad one showed up on an intl site. Thanks again!
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03/19/2023 5:31 pm
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I did a lot of reading about this last night Oh I should say early morning I found it in several places. ebay does have it up for sale in silver and some cleaned there's ugh. I sent you 2 emails about the prices. Stacks Bowers has one coming up for auction in the spring and silver And they're starting bid is a 100 for now They're probably looking for the price I sent you. There is only 1 gold 1 that they've learned about that was ever made And it has not surfaced. There are fake ones out there not real and not made by the company (the gold one). Wells Fargo had them privately made by a private designer and they cannot find who it was through documents who designer and made it, wells fargo didn't use the mint.
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Very cool indeed, thanks for sharing.
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Interesting medal - I don't recall seeing it previously. Thanks for posting and starting the discussion!

Here's a related Wells Fargo/Jon J. Valentine piece from the 1890s:

- 1892-93 World's Columbian Exposition & Wells Fargo


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Cool medal! Thanks for posting!
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RENO911.

The only WF medals (active and sold) I've seen on ebay have been the silver 1902 50th anniversary ones that were doled out after Valentine died in 1901. Those are well-themed, have a complicated design and are very appealing. Seems those medals have a pretty good survival rate as they do pop up online now and then.

I'm pretty sure, now more than ever, that the copper WF medal I posted here was issued following the banking panic of 1893 due to the "times of pressure and hardship" mentioned in the verbiage on one side. A lot of banks failed during that time period. A "thank you" from management actually meant something back in those days, too!

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This isn't technically a "banking medal" - it's from Wells Fargo's "Express" division - essentially a secure package courier business, sending valuables via the ever-expanding railroad network - hence the route map on the reverse of this medal.

The banking and express divisions of Wells Fargo were separated in 1905, and the express services were nationalized during WWI to become part of the government Railway Express Agency (REA).
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@SAP

When I first seen this posted before researching I was going to say it had to do with the railways.lol
Ironically I was going over some stuff left in a bin from the state of my parents and there's a Kodak real with slides from Utah which are all the trains passages ,trains themselves, times/dates/train#/name/destination, the car numbers I guess you wanna call them etcetera there from 1952 to 1968 the very extraordinary they're one of the kind and I'm going to donate them to a place that save things like a museum for trains indusyry/rsileays and stuff like that I'm having a difficult Time trying to locate just one that is infamous that won't go out of business and will stay around for a long time. From the appraiser first the estate we hired he claims it valuable part if history a one if a kind. On the back of that Medal shows most of the stops that is on this kodak real and stations (they'requite beautiful). It's just a uncanny how inwas looking at that when soon after this topic came up. Oh well enough yapping
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Reno911.

The Railroad Museum in Ogden Utah is pretty fascinating. It is located in the old UP Ogden depot station just west of downtown and has some outstanding rotating exhibits and rolling stock. They have on display UP #26 and 26B gas turbine powered locomotives that were beasts during their operation from 1958 to 1971. It is well worth the time and effort to visit if you are ever in the Salt Lake area. If you plan on donating the Kodaks I'd suggest the Ogden museum be on your list of potential recipients.
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