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Help ID A Silver Coin (Folis De Lelan?)

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 Posted 04/19/2023  08:17 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Newbie001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello, I've inherited a bunch of coins and am working my way through them.

Does anyone have a clue what the attached is. I'm not sure if it is a token of some sort or an actual coin?

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Steve
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 Posted 04/19/2023  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It isn't an actual coin, though it does appear to be attempting to imitate a mediaeval coin in general style. If I had to guess, my guess would be a "rennie coin" - a coin struck by historical re-enactors (like the Society for Creative Anachronism) as a demonstration of how folks in mediaeval times made coins.
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Hi thanks for the messages. It comes from a big collection of coins from around the world, it sticks out amongst the rest of the collection which are very old and worn.

It has no obvious denomination so you could well be right.

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It isn't an actual coin, though it does appear to be attempting to imitate a mediaeval coin in general style. If I had to guess, my guess would be a "rennie coin" - a coin struck by historical re-enactors (like the Society for Creative Anachronism) as a demonstration of how folks in mediaeval times made coins.


I would read the legend as "Folise de Lelay", but I'm not very confident of the "Lelay" part. Google isn't helpful
[EDIT: on further look, "Folise" could actually be "Eglise", which is apparently French for "church". I'm still not sure about the "Lelay" bit.]
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 Posted 04/19/2023  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erafjel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is a communion token from the protestant church in Lezay, France. The text reads EGLISE DE LEZAY.

Here is a piece of text from an article about protestant communion tokens in a French journal about history and literature:

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The text describes the token's obverse and reverse, to the point - it even mentions that the characters are malformed.

The article is from 1872, so that sets a latest date for the token.

@january1may, you were on the right track.
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That is amazing thank you. My family were originally Huguenot French before Emigrating around Europe. This is such an interesting bit of research. Thank you!!

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Wow, what an ID!

I was on the right track yeah... was wondering what the weird letter was but somehow hadn't realized it could be a Z. Still unexpected to see such a precise description for such an unusual item.
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kudos to erafjel

I'm moving this to a more appropriate category (from ancient)
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Hi, after Erafjel's great ID I did some basic research and have discovered a family member recorded at the Church in Lezan in 1612.

A great result from an anonymous token, thanks again!

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I found some interesting info on the use of these tokens: https://churchmousec.wordpress.com/...enot-mereau/

It is great to have family history connected to a token like this!
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Thanks again for the research. I have a lot of other coins- roman, Islamic, Chinese, European and American still to ID.. I'll take some photo's and see if anyone can knows what they are. Cheers
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