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Question About British Silver Using An 1834 Half Crown.

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 Posted 04/22/2023  6:58 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Roma2021 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello everyone,

I come across very very (very) few silver British crowns of any significant age in Rome. For some reason, I find A LOT of large pennies, many non silver half crowns, A LOT of clad coins and demonetized coins. But there are very few silver coins ...

I found this 1834 half crown today...

Strangely, the only U.S. pre barber half I have is an 1834 1/2 dollar...

My questions...

1) Were British silver coins melted in greater or equal numbers to u.s. silver coins?

2) pricing/ value is confusing on these... The u.s. coin in a slightly better grade seems to price around $40-55, but this British half crown is probably a $15-25 coin. Curious why this disparity exists... Larger collector base in the u.s.? 1834 being relatively ancient by u.s. standards and relatively modern by British standards?

Any thoughts on these would be appreciated!

Here's the coin...


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 Posted 04/23/2023  01:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In the British home market an 1834 Half Crown as pictured would have not much more than bullion value only.
I would agree that with the suggested reason for the Bust Half in the same grade,
as having a higher value in it's home market would be due to the larger collector base.

As a collector of World coins,
I have an example of a Bust Half, and a William 1111 Half Crown, both in about Fine condition, (both British grading).

For my personal grading consistency, I grade all of my American Coins in the British grading system, except if they happen to be in MS+ grades. The changeover point is MS60 - Uncirculated.
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I think a lot of silver was used during WW1 and WW2, which is also why they reduced the silver content in 1920 and stopped it altogether in 1946. But after that people kept back the silver coins from circulation.
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 Posted 04/28/2023  05:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zookeeperz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely agree with it being a larger collector base . supply and demand
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Strangely I've always thought that William IV silver coins are undervalued. Edward VII halfcrowns like 1903 and 1905 have similar mintages to William IV coins but are worth much more, even in Fair / VG condition. I think it's partly because in the run-up to Decimalization in the late 1960s most coin price guides started with Victoria or Edward VII, as William IV coins had long disappeared from circulation. So lots of people started trying to get complete date sets starting in 1838 or 1902 and ignored the earlier coins.
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 Posted 04/28/2023  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Roma2021 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all...I appreciate the replies.

I see shockingly little British silver in Rome.

I got this one at a reasonable price; mostly as a study coin to learn more about British silver.

They seem undervalued. Comparatively and objectively.
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